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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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That Reddit thread reads like /UFOs, i.e. unhinged. Do you have a link to anything more reputable?

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So the answer is no, you do not have a reputable source. Neither comment on reddit nor one here are really valuable source when talking nuclear defense secret.

As much as I dislike 99%of what Elon is and represent the past few years, that's doesn't mean we should loss critical thinking.

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They claim that unsupervised autonomy in existing cars will arrive in California and Texas next year (with an easy bogieman that it will depend on regulatory approval), but no details as to what exactly this would mean. It’s possible that they might be able to get an Level 3 product out similar to offerings by the likes of Daimler, Cadillac, and Ford - where on certain highways under certain conditions you don’t have…

Ford and Cadillac have Level 2 systems, not Level 3. Tesla also has Level 2, but it is significantly more capable. (I don't think any of the others work on city streets at all, or even change lanes automatically based on navigation.) Mercedes is so limited to just technically qualify for Level 3 that it could be likely be trivially outmatched by some limited FSD conditions if that's the route Tesla wanted to go. But…

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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Are they faking this? The robots seem way too human like, maybe they are remotely controlled?

Having built teleoperated robots, I can guarantee that the non-dancing ones are teleoperated.

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Especially because every autonomous taxi fleet to date seems to have runs where they end up blocking roads and emergency vehicles.

Imagine if you could have one human operator able to go anywhere in the city for every 50 active cars ! Of course you can scale the number up and down based on actual needs. Kinda like Tesla AAA. Overhead will be less than having a driver per car and could be reasonable.

Imagine a hurricane knocks out mobile internet and every car in the fleet is offline, x% of all cars on road stop operating, or maybe they have some independence, but if they get stuck, are stuck immobile until comms are restored. I guess at least if they're small other vehicles can shove them out of the way.

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As I understand it, a car "recall" is a regulated action in the US, and that manufacturers must issue recalls in certain circumstances and that they bring with them various requirements. How that recall actually takes place, and whether it's just an OTA update, is an implementation detail that doesn't matter as much. I realise that does go against the customer perception of what a product recall entails in general. T…

You can argue semantics, but it’s not an implementation detail that doesn’t matter, it’s fundamentally misrepresenting the truth. A “recall” that does actually involve bringing the car in for service, a.k.a. recalling the car, is not accurately described as a “recall”. Words mean something. The NHTSA is being idiotic (unsurprisingly) in not distinguishing between a software update and a recall, because legacy auto do…

> Words mean something.

Funny you'd say that while arguing the opposite.

The word "recall" with respect to cars has a legal meaning with specific before and after procedures. It's not any random update.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Classic bait and switch setup. Selling people the future in 2 years time with little to nothing to show for today. Timelines will slip, plans will change, software won‘t be ready, prices will change. And that doesn’t even account for where Waymo is in two years from now, or what the Chinese EV industry is able to pull off until then. Even this underwhelming event was originally announced on short notice to prop up pe…

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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Here's an idea - take the Robocab car design, strip out all the FSD/autopilot stuff, put in a steering wheel and dash and sell it starting at the end of the year for ~$25k. It would sell +++

a ROUND steering wheel and add turn signal stalks!!

The squircle actually works pretty well in the CT! Agree about the turn signal stalks though.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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So the answer is no, you do not have a reputable source. Neither comment on reddit nor one here are really valuable source when talking nuclear defense secret. As much as I dislike 99%of what Elon is and represent the past few years, that's doesn't mean we should loss critical thinking.

The statements are hyperlinked to sources in the comments. You can read those. What in particular are you disputing?

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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This. If you have a robotaxi for under 30k, why not just sell the car for that much?

Tesla market cap is based on AI/robotaxi/FSD. Without that, they’re just playing catchup to BYD (who quietly, yet aggressively, executes at scale; they offer EVs today between $10k-$20k and already employ more workers than Toyota [for scale]). https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/03/cars/china-tesla-byd-competit... https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/03/chinas-byd-is-set-to-beat-te... https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/be…

BYD are literally handmade. I expect QA issues worse that Tesla’s Production Hell and in long term support. Plus, they’re doped up with subsidies like an Eastern Block Olympic Athlete; China needs to prop up its books after the Real Estate bubble turned to rubble
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