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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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dmix wrote: post #69
strulovich wrote: post #31

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Barring all the issues, if you did build a huge fleet of autonomous taxis - smaller, lighter cars with less moving pieces would save you a lot of money. 2 seater - smaller car No wheels or stuff - saves money on the build and parts.

They are probably planning to reuse lots of parts from model 3 to save money And people are creatures of habit and highly social so version 1 of robotaxis will 100% look like normal cars. Regardless of whatever benefits you can come up with on paper. Once it's normalized then you experiment.

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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

cryptoegorophy wrote: post #45
fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #37

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I use it every day, but HN says it doesn’t work

Exactly. I wish people actually used it instead of reading biased news about it. Driving is so much stress free with it now.

Driving is stress free until you end up under a truck or taking a life.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by lern_too_spel »

lopkeny12ko wrote: post #93
lern_too_spel wrote: post #81

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How many disengagements per thousand miles? By all accounts, it's still far behind where Waymo was 10 years ago.

It doesn't matter because it's a meaningless statistic. But sure, I'll entertain it. Last figure I heard was 1 disengagement per 200 miles. The distance between SF and LA is 380 miles. If my car can drive me from SF to LA and I only have to intervene once , that's already incredible and leagues ahead of what Waymo can offer. And since you asked, FSD 12.6 will reduce disengagements per mile by 5x.

Waymo was doing .64 disengagements per 1000 miles in 2015 and wasn't comfortable launching a taxi service on that. Even after 12.6, Tesla will be behind. The point is Tesla can't launch a driverless taxi service on its current system, not from SF to LA, not within SF, not anywhere.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by spankalee »

lopkeny12ko wrote: post #93
lern_too_spel wrote: post #81

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How many disengagements per thousand miles? By all accounts, it's still far behind where Waymo was 10 years ago.

It doesn't matter because it's a meaningless statistic. But sure, I'll entertain it. Last figure I heard was 1 disengagement per 200 miles. The distance between SF and LA is 380 miles. If my car can drive me from SF to LA and I only have to intervene once , that's already incredible and leagues ahead of what Waymo can offer. And since you asked, FSD 12.6 will reduce disengagements per mile by 5x.

You do realize that Waymos don't have drivers behind the wheel, right?

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by mplewis »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #15

Anybody know why the autonomous taxi isn't just a model 3? I don't see the point in a purpose built two seater with no steering wheel or pedals and I don't know why regulators would approve an autonomous car with no way to manually override it.

Because all the work of allegedly building a new vehicle platform is a better excuse for making no profit on the robotaxi initiative for the next ten years.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by BluSyn »

j7ake wrote: post #90
TrainedMonkey wrote: post #79

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I have no first hand knowledge here, but thinking from first principles. From Robotaxi fleet perspective you want autonomous maintenance, cleaning, charging, and lowest cost. From Robotaxi user perspective you want climate / music / entertaiment / safety. So the idea for robot taxi is that it should be better than model 3 in some or all of those dimensions. Now speculating for the moment, from Elon perspective you pr…

Autonomous cleaning? Good luck vacuuming all the nooks and crannies in a car.

They literally showed a clip of a robot cleaning the car in the announcement. Also perfect task for Optimus.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by mplewis »

rumblefrog wrote: post #104

Robotaxi & Optumus robot still looks to be years and years away. However, I'm pretty fond of the idea of having distributed compute nodes that performs computations when idle, the idea of reclaiming parking lots, the induction charging and vacuum bots looks pretty sleek as well.

He just bought a massive data center with thousands of Nvidia boards. Why would the car be an efficient place to do the same work?

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by TechPlasma »

I think their "robotaxi" is kinda pathetic. But goddamn... That bus is one of the single most beautiful vehicles they have ever designed. I absolutely love it. (Fan of Art Deco and streamliner locomotive design)

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by sandspar »

mplewis wrote: post #115
wilsonnb3 wrote: post #15

Anybody know why the autonomous taxi isn't just a model 3? I don't see the point in a purpose built two seater with no steering wheel or pedals and I don't know why regulators would approve an autonomous car with no way to manually override it.

Because all the work of allegedly building a new vehicle platform is a better excuse for making no profit on the robotaxi initiative for the next ten years.

What's the deal with cynical, low effort comments like this that add nothing to the discussion? There's obviously more to the story than what you're saying. HackerNews is supposed to be for discussion, not Reddit-tier snark. Comments like yours are just visual pollution.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by mplewis »

porphyra wrote: post #98
sidcool wrote: post #72

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A new car look without steering wheel and pedals. A working robovan. I don't think people understand the complexity of creating a hardware prototype of anything. This can't be ChatGPTed

Yeah and making 50 new cars that drive around is a lot harder than making a one-off prototype.

Wow, great! They put motors and wheels on a chassis with a screen and hardcoded them to drive in a loop. So impressive.
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