The world changes once you realize why usually encryption is capped at AES256...
256 bit symmetric cryptography keys are a bit like picking one atom in the universe (10^80 atoms, or 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000). Your opponent would have to test half of the atoms in the universe to have a reasonable chance of getting the right key. That's generally understood to be not feasible.
End-to-End Encrypted Cloud Storage in the Wild: A Broken Ecosystem
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have not seen this take before, do you have any pointers to someone making this claim?
Founders with US affiliation/physicist creating crypto products [1], faulty claims how the relevant Swiss law (BÜPF) applies to them [2], doing crypto in JavaScript on the client side, etc. To me, this smells like Crypto AG [3][4]. [1] https://proton.me/about/team [2] https://steigerlegal.ch/2019/07/27/protonmail-transparenzber... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation…
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Founders with US affiliation/physicist creating crypto products [1], faulty claims how the relevant Swiss law (BÜPF) applies to them [2], doing crypto in JavaScript on the client side, etc. To me, this smells like Crypto AG [3][4]. [1] https://proton.me/about/team [2] https://steigerlegal.ch/2019/07/27/protonmail-transparenzber... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation…
Is the suggestion that founders who have US affiliation are automatically in bed with three letter agencies?
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#34It’s not hard to encrypt it before you upload it.
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#35If you don’t trust your cloud provider to not look at your data, why would you trust them with encryption? It’s not hard to encrypt it before you upload it.
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#36I wonder how Cryptomator [0], EncFS [1] or gocryptfs [2] stacks up. [0] https://cryptomator.org/ [1] https://vgough.github.io/encfs/ [2] https://github.com/rfjakob/gocryptfs
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#37https://dropbox.tech/security/end-to-end-encryption-for-drop... dropbox has been mentioned in the article and I think the author is drinking kool-aid and throwing random facts
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#38Nice to see that Tresorit didn't have any serious issues in this analysis, I've been using that for a long time and it works really great, also one of the few players that have a really good Linux client. The two vulnerabilities they found seem pretty far-fetched to me, basically the first is that a compromised CA server will be able to create fake public keys, which I honestly don't know how one could defend against…
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#39I wonder how Cryptomator [0], EncFS [1] or gocryptfs [2] stacks up. [0] https://cryptomator.org/ [1] https://vgough.github.io/encfs/ [2] https://github.com/rfjakob/gocryptfs
If they aren't multitenant systems it doesn't make sense to compare them to the targets of this paper.
But perhaps I've misunderstood you.
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#40My understanding was that Tarsnap was just fine and that was the preferred solution for Hacker News outside Dropbox.