Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by bee_rider » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:38 PM UTC

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #97

victor9000 wrote: post #50

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Having followed the same path, you won't regret it. I jumped ship 15 years ago after starting off my career as a C# dev and I never looked back. Linux makes it easy for you to be a developer, while other platforms fight you every step of the way. You'll eventually get into situations where you need to update something manually or rollback a dependecy, but it will be possible, and you'll find bug tickets describing th…

> Linux makes it easy for you to be a developer, while other platforms fight you every step of the way I see this sentiment a lot but the developer experience on Windows is good to great in my experience. Much better than MacOS or linux if you are using Visual Studio and .NET, pretty equal if you are using another stack. What it isn't is posix/unix. A lot of the bad developer experience people have on windows is from…

I’m assuming it is easier to write code on the platform you want to deploy it to. So, server-first stuff: web dev, scientific computing, AI, all that sort of stuff is Linux-first.

Writing Windows software, I’m sure, is easier on Windows.

Happily Valve fixed the whole gaming issue, outside of niche DRM stuff that I don’t care about.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by y2hhcmxlcw » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:39 PM UTC

What about Attorneys and Doctors who have protected health information and client privileged information? Are they not to use Microsoft Products now?

What about any company with Trade Secret information? Are they also not to use Microsoft Products now?

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by zamalek » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:40 PM UTC

twojacobtwo wrote: post #111

hcal wrote: post #23

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I run it on Linux everyday with Steam on Proton. It is my go to game on steamdeck and my Fedora desktop. By default steam wants to download the old old old Linux version that doesn't allow online play, but if you enable proton it will download the Windows version and run fine. I am pretty sure it doesn't have a real anti-cheat included.

Are you sure? Is this recent (last 6 months)? I enabled it and tested multiple versions of Proton with no success. Did you have to do anything else?

In addition to making sure that the EAC runtime is installed, try setting the compatibility command to:

    SDL_VIDEODRIVER=windows,x11 %command%

This is a typical problem with EAC.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by rft » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:40 PM UTC

SunlitCat wrote: post #35

kelsey98765431 wrote: post #2

Proton is able to run just about anything now, not just games. Stop using Microsoft Operating Systems where you can and mark them as needing replacement with real software in all your reports.

Maybe anyone can chime in about VR support under Linux? That's a huge show stopper for me at the moment and holding me back from switching over to Linux.

Overall, if you are willing to deal with some annoyances, give it a try, it might cover your use cases.

SteamVR is playable, but not at Windows level and rough around the edges. I personally run an Index on a 4080 Super (previously 3080) via the SteamVR runtime. System details in case it matters: Arch Linux Zen kernel, X11 (i3), Nvidia drivers, SteamVR Beta, usually a recent Proton GE version. I remember playing Beat Saber, including modded [1], Until You Fall, Pistol Whip, Raw Data and After the Fall without issues. Non-steam applications outside Steam can also work, I have a launch script that sets up the env vars for Proton, should be easier via Lutris.

I see some problems however. VR itself is not as smooth as it should be, 100% playable, but not as smooth as I remember it ages ago on Windows or using a FOSS VR [4] stack (which has other issues). I don't really use SteamVR home, it sometimes takes a while to load. SteamVR window on the monitor has weird flickering issues, usually I can't get into its settings, likely i3 related. Firmware updates are mostly broken. No (I think) standby for the Lighthouses, I toggle them via Home Assistant and smart plugs.

Shout out to steamtinkerlaunch [2] for making certain settings easier to apply and ProtonDB [3] for tweaks if needed.

[1] https://github.com/geefr/beatsaber-linux-goodies [2] https://github.com/sonic2kk/steamtinkerlaunch [3] https://www.protondb.com/ [4] https://monado.freedesktop.org/ https://lvra.gitlab.io/

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by mitthrowaway2 » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:40 PM UTC

thomasahle wrote: post #52

For those who don't know, Microsoft Recall is a system that screenshots what you do every few seconds, and uses OpenAI's vision api to allow search on eveything you did in the past. There's an article from Sep 27th where they promise you'll be able to uninstall Recall: https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/27/24255721/microsoft-window... , not sure what that means for this explorer.exe dependency.

Is this why a new privacy setting quietly turned up called "Activity history"?

> "Activity history: Jump back into what you were doing on your device by storing your activity history, including info about websites you browse and how you use apps and services. Review the Learn more and Privacy Statement to find out how Microsoft products and services use this data to personalize experiences while respecting your privacy"

"Copilot" also quietly turned up on my Windows 10 taskbar not long ago. I certainly didn't opt to install it.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by MiddleEndian » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:43 PM UTC

ryandrake wrote: post #92

delusional wrote: post #59

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I think it's a pretty damning condemnation of Microsoft's current product strategy, at least in relation to the user segment that visits hacker news. People are willing to run highly privileged untrusted and unverified code in the personal computers, just for a chance to remove the stuff you're actively spending money and time developing.

Microsoft's software is now indistinguishable from malware. If I had to run Windows, I would have zero trust in it, which matches my level of trust in "Fast Eddie's Random Script". At least Fast Eddie says in the README file that his script is not attacking my computer. Microsoft readily admits to its status as an attacker, and calls the attacks "features."

Microsoft learned from the years of its own users accepting 3rd party malware on their machines pre Win-7, and pretty much all phone users (Android definitely, probably iOS as well but I'm less familiar) accepting unremovable bloatware, so they added it back with Win8+.

Honestly Windows 10 is/was pretty good once you removed the MS malware but they're definitely antagonistic as a whole.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by hagbard_c » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:44 PM UTC

School-Cotton wrote: post #99

kobalsky wrote: post #78

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~~it's supposed to be optional.~~ it's supposed to be local. you can supposedly disable it. it's supposed not to send your information to the cops if it's sees you being naughty.

There's another step: "Okay, it'll send your information to the cops, but only if it sees you doing something REALLY, REALLY bad, and we pinky-promise we will not let cops in authoritarian countries decide what that means". (Remember the iCloud photo scanning controversy?)

And then, the last step:

   If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry over.

   Why do you worry? What do you have to hide?

   Don't leave your house, a Black Maria is on its way to pick you up.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by golf1052 » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:46 PM UTC

noncoml wrote: post #60

I thought I make a generic reply instead of replying at every comment below: People don't use Windows over Linux because they prefer the Windows environment/experience. They use it because of the applications, and to some degree the drivers, that are not available in Linux.

To the shock of some people as well, some people use Windows because they prefer it over other operating systems.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by lostmsu » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:47 PM UTC

kobalsky wrote: post #78

lostmsu wrote: post #53

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It supposed to be local.

~~it's supposed to be optional.~~ it's supposed to be local. you can supposedly disable it. it's supposed not to send your information to the cops if it's sees you being naughty.

Did you mean "opt-in" rather than optional? Optional is the same as "you can disable it". Also, you scratched it out. Are you sure they just enable it without asking? The link above even has a screenshot.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:47 PM UTC

skydhash wrote: post #118

brink wrote: post #3

Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

download && install rufus flash usb drive with linuxmint backup files reboot and boot from the usb drive wipe system drive and install linuxmint

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