Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by twojacobtwo » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:32 PM UTC

hcal wrote: post #23

lpapez wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The day when I can play Rocket League under Linux without anti-cheat kicking in is when I will stop using it completely. Until then, I am dual booting.

I run it on Linux everyday with Steam on Proton. It is my go to game on steamdeck and my Fedora desktop. By default steam wants to download the old old old Linux version that doesn't allow online play, but if you enable proton it will download the Windows version and run fine. I am pretty sure it doesn't have a real anti-cheat included.

Are you sure? Is this recent (last 6 months)? I enabled it and tested multiple versions of Proton with no success. Did you have to do anything else?

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:33 PM UTC

hggigg wrote: post #69

joshdavham wrote: post #4

I'm not a windows user myself, but I'm curious what you windows users think about this.

Well as a windows user and developer for 30 years, I’m typing this on my MacBook Pro.

You should take a look at what Apple collects

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by bee_rider » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:33 PM UTC

markus_zhang wrote: post #63

If it comes to Windows 10 I'll have to go for a Linux machine.

Give it a try, dual boot.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by keyringlight » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:33 PM UTC

lovethevoid wrote: post #61

brink wrote: post #3

Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

I've used Chris' winutil https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil due to being open source and a powershell script, you can see everything it's doing there's no magic. The recommended update schedule change is something a lot of other programs miss out on imo Additionally for O&O shut up fans, it has the option to launch that too within the script's GUI, as neither has to be installed to run

I know this technically applies to a lot of open source, but given the breadth of tools under the windows 'tweaking' category and the audience I'd expect to use these "magic wands to fix things you disagree with MS on" I'm really surprised there aren't more subtle trojans mixed in with them. I think it's extremely unlikely any significant amount of users examine the source or make sure a binary they're using is trustworthy, even assuming they know what to look for.

There's a lot of 'marketing' possible and a receptive audience whenever a big tech company pushes something like Copilot/Recall, and I'm sure a well timed or prompt 'quick and simple fix' tool release with some a time pressure could get a lot of installs.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by DrillShopper » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:34 PM UTC

kelsey98765431 wrote: post #2

Proton is able to run just about anything now, not just games. Stop using Microsoft Operating Systems where you can and mark them as needing replacement with real software in all your reports.

I recently set up my gaming rig dual booting Win 10 and Linux. I've spent almost all of my time in the Linux side, and when Win 10 is EOL I am no longer dual booting - Windows can live in a GPU passthrough VM under Linux with only Steam and whatever Windows software won't run under Proton/Wine.

Windows can see what I want it to see and not the whole machine. It has completely broken my trust.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by linguae » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:35 PM UTC

SunlitCat wrote: post #27

hypeatei wrote: post #21

So glad I switched to Linux and got away from this garbage. Now I have to convince my employer to also allow Linux on their workstations. Windows 7 was the last good OS from MSFT but even that had a bit of telemetry.

If it is about telemetry and related stuff (like that activation), it would be Windows 2000. Sadly I never had the chance to experience it and went with Windows ME. :(

Activation, introduced in Windows XP, is the main reason why I consider Windows 2000 the high water mark of Windows. The Windows NT lineup was truly no nonsense, no fuss. Unfortunately the merger of consumer-focused Windows (which used to be the 3.1/95/98/Me) lineup) and pro-focused Windows (which was the NT lineup plus Windows 2000) coincided with the introduction of many annoyances, starting with activation in Windows XP and later adding nagging prompts for updates and security-related things, telemetry, UI changes, and more.

Sadly even macOS has gotten more annoying over the years with its various nagging prompts.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by goalieca » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:35 PM UTC

skydhash wrote: post #74

lostmsu wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It supposed to be local.

Which is equally bad. Why am I wasting CPU power on that?

It sounds like an unnecessary security nightmare. Someone will figure out how to tap into this.

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by skydhash » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:35 PM UTC

brink wrote: post #3

Does anyone know any good "debloat" scripts to disable all these modern features of Windows 11 and bring me back to something that resembles the Windows I grew up with? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the registry keys and config settings I need to update to keep this crap at bay.

  download && install rufus
  flash usb drive with linuxmint
  backup files
  reboot and boot from the usb drive
  wipe system drive and install linuxmint

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by Zhyl » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:37 PM UTC

School-Cotton wrote: post #101

csdreamer7 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For example, there are no drivers for a pretty common steering wheel (Logitech G923). This is a nice, specific detail. Most of these comments are very vague. > There is a driver for an older version of the wheel that kind of works Do you mean an out of tree driver? Would you test this and post back? The 6.3 kernel they mentioned 3 months ago is very old and likely a forked kernel. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gam…

Anticheat is not some minor detail, lots of popular competitive games require it.

Specifically, these ones:

https://areweanticheatyet.com

Re: Microsoft Recall is now an explorer.exe dependency

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Post by DrillShopper » Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 7:37 PM UTC

imchillyb wrote: post #42

People aren’t people. They’re not citizens. We are consumers, labeled and binned. Our constitution might as well read: ‘We the Product…’.

We hold these truth self evident that all corporations are likely created in Delaware and domiciled in Ireland for tax purposes. They are endowed by their shareholders with certain unalienable rights, that among these are profit, lack of regulation, and the pursuit of infinite growth.