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The Mediawiki software is not a static webpage
I'm also shocked at the tens of thousands per month, it can't possibly be hosting alone. It has to be that the maintainer had a generous salary or something.
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Ah Cloudflare, where you constantly get captchas for attempting to read a web page .
Cloudflare dropped captchas back in 2022 [0], now it's just a checkbox that you check and it lets you it (or does not). And this mean that my ancient android tablets can no longer visit many cloudflare-enabled sites.. I have a very mixed feelings about this: I hate that my tablets are no longer usable so I want less Cloudflare; but also when I visit websites (on modern computers) which provide traditional captchas wh…
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Fandom is one of my least favorite things now. The site ends up having more ads than the average porn or piracy website, it manages to slow down my relatively beefy laptops without even trying. I love the idea of fan wikis, but Fandom is basically the worst possible implementation of that idea.
In a nutshell https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page vs https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki (Though UESP has had banner ads for a while now)
As the person ultimately responsible for the Minecraft Wiki ending up in the hands of Fandom, it is great to see what Weird Gloop (and similar) are achieving. At the time of selling out, the Minecraft Wiki and Minecraft Forum cost tens of thousands of dollars per month to run and so it didn't feel too much like selling out, because we needed money to survive[1]. 15 years later, the internet is a different place, and…
In all fairness, running modest to large MediaWiki instances isn't easy. There's a lot of things that are not immediately obvious: - For anything complex/large enough you have to set `$wgMiserMode` otherwise operations will just get way too long and start timing out. - You have to set `$wgJobRunRate` to 0 or a bunch of requests will just start stalling when they get assigned to calculate an expensive task that takes…
I adopted mediawiki to run a knowledge base for my organization at Microsoft ( https://microsoft.github.io/code-with-engineering-playbook/I... ).
As I was exploring self-host options that would scale to our org size, it turned out there was already an internal team running a company wide multi-tenant mediawiki PLATFORM.
So I hit them up and a week later we had a custom instance and were off to the races.
Almost all the work that team did was making mediawiki hyper efficient with caching and cache gen, along with a lot of plumbing to have shared infra (AD auth, semitrusted code repos, etc) thst still allowed all of us “customers” to implement whatever whacky extensions and templates we needed.
I still hope that one day Microsoft will acknowledge that they use Mediawiki internally (and to great effect) and open-source the whole stack, or at least offer it as a hosted platform.
I tried setting up a production instance af my next employer - and we ended up using confluence , it was like going back to the dark ages. But I couldn’t make any reasonable financial argument against it - it would have taken a a huge lift to get a vanilla MW instance integrated into the enterprise IT environment.
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Why can't they replace the old pages with a link to the new page? Or otherwise remove the contents from the old site?
That's considered vandalism of fandom, and probably rightly so. Could you imagine if someone declared a successor to wikipedia and edited all the pages to redirect? Sometimes you just have to put the effort into making the new better, and it's a hard long slog especially against a well funded incumbent. But like all problems in PoE, PoE2 will fix it. ;)
> But like all problems in PoE, PoE2 will fix it. ;)
Isn't that the game for which Sannikov came up with his new global illumination algorithm? [1] (Apparently yes)