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Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by burkaman »

hackernewds wrote: post #20
mcint wrote: post #13

Arguably black-bar material. Outside view, it seems like he served a tenure atop a group comparable to Disney, in breadth, scale, and market share across many industries in India, as a magnate. Notably, in the period of massive telecom rollout in India. Largest wholly owned and most advanced subsea fibre network, carrying around 30% of the world’s internet routes - Brave.com's Llama, sourced from Tata sites Note "30%…

I'm finding it really tough to understand your comment across the flipflopping of formats. Here’s a clearer and more concise version of your text: Comment from mcint on HN: From an external perspective, he can be viewed as a magnate who led a group comparable to Disney in terms of breadth, scale, and market share across multiple industries in India. His leadership was particularly notable during the massive telecom r…

This just repeats the whole comment with more words. Please don't copy-paste autogenerated text here unless it adds to the conversation somehow.

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by m0llusk »

amarsharma wrote: post #74

Extremely saddening to hear this, he was an inspiration growing up as a technologist and entrepreneur. Tata does a lot of philanthropy and does a lot of free cancer treatments, aside from all the great industries he has built. Om Shaanti https://www.tata.com/community/health/tata-memorial-centre

He had a great life. Is dying at 86 really unexpected or sad? It seems to me like an expected end. Exactly how long should he live for his passing to be normalized?

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by dyauspitr »

stasi9 wrote: post #48
lazide wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Indian subcontinent is so densely populated, very few areas can support hunting. It does happen in some rural areas. Sport hunting is not really a thing though. Most Indians (statistically) are vegetarian, and essentially obligate vegetarian due to the population density (also enforced by religion), though ‘vegetarian’ can include eggs, fish, and sometimes chicken depending on the person, time, etc. Indian Muslim…

Statistically most indians are Non-vegetarians( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country#India ). Various estimates mostly around 20-40%. Statistically i "think" more people are killed by terrorist attack then cow vigilantes.

Pure vegetarian maybe but eating chicken or fish once or twice a month is still pretty much vegetarian and that’s the vast majority of the population.

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by 4ggr0 »

RIP, as one says.

That being said, it always irks me when people worship "philantropic" billionaires. I'm sure he's done good things. But there are no ethical billionaires in capitalism. TATA is a giant corp with a lot of influence, I can't believe that they're a 'honest company which doesn't bribe, pays their taxes and are otherwise clean'.

Would probably be the first case of an ethical corporation/billionaire :)

Certainly cool that he helped stray dogs and people with cancer, but come on people, see through the corpo propaganda. Sounds the same to me as "[INSERT US BILLIONARE] has donated 5 milion dollars to [CUTE CAUSE], what a hero! (ignore the atrocious things done by their corps and themselves)."

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by gautamsomani »

dotps1 wrote: post #79

I'm sure he was an amazing capitalist, but my experience with Tata consulting was the worst. I worked for a division of GE during the Immelt years that outsourced large portions of IT to Tata, and was in charge of the transition. It was a masterclass in waste and inefficiency. Definitely one of the larger nails in the coffin of a former Fortune 5 company.

Have same thing to say. I worked for a very large e-commerce company in India, who when they were building their DC, contracted TCS. TCS gave a nightmarish experience on execution and ethics. They were horrible.

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by joncrane »

aitchnyu wrote: post #18
wanderingmind wrote: post #6

People will talk about his different contribution to economy and philanthropy. However, my favorite is the story where he instructed his hotel employees to treat stray dogs well if they enter the premises. For a man of his wealth and power, to care about a stray dog truly speaks to his humble nature. RIP Sir, you were a crown jewel of the post independence India. https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/ratan-ta…

On one hand, stray dogs are a joy for many Indians. For many months the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work and throwing bones to the assembled dogs. On the other hand, they enter homes and kill babies, attack children and adults and carry rabies epidemics. Right thing to do is to prevent more strays from happening.

Can you link to some incidents of stray dogs entering houses and killing babies?

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by ericd »

joncrane wrote: post #86
aitchnyu wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On one hand, stray dogs are a joy for many Indians. For many months the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work and throwing bones to the assembled dogs. On the other hand, they enter homes and kill babies, attack children and adults and carry rabies epidemics. Right thing to do is to prevent more strays from happening.

Can you link to some incidents of stray dogs entering houses and killing babies?

Not sure about entering houses, but a friend’s 5 year old just got bitten by a stray dog on the stomach during a month stay in India, she had to go through a course of rabies shots in the stomach.

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by StackRanker3000 »

m0llusk wrote: post #82
amarsharma wrote: post #74

Extremely saddening to hear this, he was an inspiration growing up as a technologist and entrepreneur. Tata does a lot of philanthropy and does a lot of free cancer treatments, aside from all the great industries he has built. Om Shaanti https://www.tata.com/community/health/tata-memorial-centre

He had a great life. Is dying at 86 really unexpected or sad? It seems to me like an expected end. Exactly how long should he live for his passing to be normalized?

Isn’t it normal and human to be sad about someone’s passing, even if it’s expected?

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by atonse »

4ggr0 wrote: post #84

RIP, as one says. That being said, it always irks me when people worship "philantropic" billionaires. I'm sure he's done good things. But there are no ethical billionaires in capitalism. TATA is a giant corp with a lot of influence, I can't believe that they're a 'honest company which doesn't bribe, pays their taxes and are otherwise clean'. Would probably be the first case of an ethical corporation/billionaire :) Ce…

Sure but you have to grade on a curve. When you actually see how some of their peers act, compared to them, the Tatas are gems.

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by stareatgoats »

StackRanker3000 wrote: post #88
m0llusk wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He had a great life. Is dying at 86 really unexpected or sad? It seems to me like an expected end. Exactly how long should he live for his passing to be normalized?

Isn’t it normal and human to be sad about someone’s passing, even if it’s expected?

It is. But it is also perhaps interesting to note that most people seem to rate deaths differently depending on the age of the person. A young person cut down in their prime is a special kind of tragedy, so is the death of toddlers and young children. The passing of an old person, who by all accounts have outlived most other people on earth as far as we can tell, is saddening, especially to the people in the near family. But perhaps not shocking and traumatizing, as the other examples might be.

Just observing, not saying that this is how it should be.

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