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Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by MichaelZuo »

hackernewds wrote: post #20
mcint wrote: post #13

Arguably black-bar material. Outside view, it seems like he served a tenure atop a group comparable to Disney, in breadth, scale, and market share across many industries in India, as a magnate. Notably, in the period of massive telecom rollout in India. Largest wholly owned and most advanced subsea fibre network, carrying around 30% of the world’s internet routes - Brave.com's Llama, sourced from Tata sites Note "30%…

I'm finding it really tough to understand your comment across the flipflopping of formats. Here’s a clearer and more concise version of your text: Comment from mcint on HN: From an external perspective, he can be viewed as a magnate who led a group comparable to Disney in terms of breadth, scale, and market share across multiple industries in India. His leadership was particularly notable during the massive telecom r…

How is it more concise if it uses roughly the same amount of verbage?

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by lotsofpulp »

lazide wrote: post #42
jimbob45 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The Indian subcontinent is so densely populated, very few areas can support hunting. It does happen in some rural areas. Sport hunting is not really a thing though. Most Indians (statistically) are vegetarian, and essentially obligate vegetarian due to the population density (also enforced by religion), though ‘vegetarian’ can include eggs, fish, and sometimes chicken depending on the person, time, etc. Indian Muslim…

> though ‘vegetarian’ can include eggs, fish, and sometimes chicken depending on the person, time, etc.

What is the purpose of the word vegetarian if one uses it to mean consuming some animals but not others?

Vegan = no animals used to make food

Vegetarian = no animals consumed

Ovo lacto vegetarian = vegetarian that eats eggs and dairy (I guess additional clarifiers in case someone thinks vegetarian does not include eggs or dairy)

Pescatarian = fish + some flavor of vegetatian/vegan

Omnivore = eats everything

Carnivore = only eats animals

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by amarsharma »

Extremely saddening to hear this, he was an inspiration growing up as a technologist and entrepreneur. Tata does a lot of philanthropy and does a lot of free cancer treatments, aside from all the great industries he has built.

Om Shaanti

https://www.tata.com/community/health/tata-memorial-centre

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by ignoramous »

stasi9 wrote: post #48
lazide wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Indian subcontinent is so densely populated, very few areas can support hunting. It does happen in some rural areas. Sport hunting is not really a thing though. Most Indians (statistically) are vegetarian, and essentially obligate vegetarian due to the population density (also enforced by religion), though ‘vegetarian’ can include eggs, fish, and sometimes chicken depending on the person, time, etc. Indian Muslim…

Statistically most indians are Non-vegetarians( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country#India ). Various estimates mostly around 20-40%. Statistically i "think" more people are killed by terrorist attack then cow vigilantes.

> more people are killed by terrorist attack then cow vigilantes

Cow vigilantes makes it sound like Batman & Robinhood when in fact it is a euphemism for Saffron Terror https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_terrorism

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by thisisit »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #8

As someone who stays far from politics, ratan tata and tata group in particular are the extraordinary entities who do opposite of enshitification. They dont cut corners (like everyone) and are highly regarded as being genuinely good. Case in point. From a tax perspective, historically reliance indistries was always known for being sneaky around taxes, dodging taxes, finding loopholes and such. Tata OTOH, they are his…

Huh. I wonder what this man “staying away from politics” using the infamous lobbyist Nira Radia for? Oh I remember lobbying and manipulating the telecom licences.

It’s okay to like this guy but Tatas are considered saints because not many know their history.

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by jajko »

wanderingmind wrote: post #6

People will talk about his different contribution to economy and philanthropy. However, my favorite is the story where he instructed his hotel employees to treat stray dogs well if they enter the premises. For a man of his wealth and power, to care about a stray dog truly speaks to his humble nature. RIP Sir, you were a crown jewel of the post independence India. https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/ratan-ta…

That really isn't that common, IMHO and speaks volumes about his empathy. Its true that my 6-month backpacking experiences are 14 and 16 years old and India is rather a continent on its own, not only population wise but also culturally and geographically so don't want to generalize here.

I've seen utter ignorance from ie older girls to stray dogs dying in the middle of the street, while I was reeling from mild shock sitting on the curb. I guess after few years there I would be desensitised too. Cows have it easy there, other animals not so much by western standards.

Its true that stray dogs specifically are also a potential threat, the picture ain't black & white.

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by known »

aitchnyu wrote: post #18
wanderingmind wrote: post #6

People will talk about his different contribution to economy and philanthropy. However, my favorite is the story where he instructed his hotel employees to treat stray dogs well if they enter the premises. For a man of his wealth and power, to care about a stray dog truly speaks to his humble nature. RIP Sir, you were a crown jewel of the post independence India. https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/ratan-ta…

On one hand, stray dogs are a joy for many Indians. For many months the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work and throwing bones to the assembled dogs. On the other hand, they enter homes and kill babies, attack children and adults and carry rabies epidemics. Right thing to do is to prevent more strays from happening.

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Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by dotps1 »

I'm sure he was an amazing capitalist, but my experience with Tata consulting was the worst.

I worked for a division of GE during the Immelt years that outsourced large portions of IT to Tata, and was in charge of the transition.

It was a masterclass in waste and inefficiency.

Definitely one of the larger nails in the coffin of a former Fortune 5 company.

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Post by lazide »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #73
lazide wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Indian subcontinent is so densely populated, very few areas can support hunting. It does happen in some rural areas. Sport hunting is not really a thing though. Most Indians (statistically) are vegetarian, and essentially obligate vegetarian due to the population density (also enforced by religion), though ‘vegetarian’ can include eggs, fish, and sometimes chicken depending on the person, time, etc. Indian Muslim…

> though ‘vegetarian’ can include eggs, fish, and sometimes chicken depending on the person, time, etc. What is the purpose of the word vegetarian if one uses it to mean consuming some animals but not others? Vegan = no animals used to make food Vegetarian = no animals consumed Ovo lacto vegetarian = vegetarian that eats eggs and dairy (I guess additional clarifiers in case someone thinks vegetarian does not include…

Don’t ask me, I’m just using the terms and definitions locals use.
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