May he rest in peace, his name will be remembered and impact felt for long.
Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86
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#32I don't think people outside India understand what Tata means. Who Ratan Tata was. He was not some random rich person who did some philanthropy. ~66% of everything that Tata companies make goes back to philanthropy and the people of India. And these days to people where Tata companies operates (I presume). To the TATAs, people are of primary importance. They are a behemoth of a group comparable to Samsung or other bi…
The reputation of the Tata group is not as stellar as it was under the leadership of JRD Tata.
Nonetheless, it is one of the few large industrial groups in India to go above and beyond their commercial interests to look at the interests of Indians as a whole.
I remember the day JRD Tata died. I was still in college then and I had an overwhelming sense of grief over his death. It was a huge loss to lose a man of his caliber and my grief was for the country. With Ratan Tata, it is similar but not on the same scale as JRD.
Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86
#33Throwaway account here, but I think we should be cautious about hero worship.
While it's true that Tata has contributed positively in many areas, there are also significant controversies surrounding his legacy—like leasing coal mines for just 25 paise for 999 years before independence(1), among other issues(2)
It's important to consider both the positives and negatives to form a well-rounded opinion. Let's aim to be informed and objective rather than blindly idolizing anyone.
(1) https://www.firstpost.com/business/a-tata-coalgate-999-yr-mi...
Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
A little ignorant here, could you explain a little more on this part. > the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work Is it 'normal' to have to work late to 10pm, or does it mean second job, etc.? Or was that just a typo and you meant 10am? My gut instinct is 10am, but wanted to ask directly out of curiosity if I was wrong and get a better cultural understanding.
Night shift/2nd shift is a thing.
> Night shift/2nd shift is a thing.
Yes, of course and definitely I considered as I mention if he/she meant 2nd job, etc. Just the phrasing threw me off as it says 'day', then '10pm' and it's written as if it is a normal occurrence for the majority of the population (which would imply night shift/2nd shift is normal working times for the majority). Just wanted to get clarification from OP on exactly what was meant to satisfy my own curiosity.
Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86
#35People will talk about his different contribution to economy and philanthropy. However, my favorite is the story where he instructed his hotel employees to treat stray dogs well if they enter the premises. For a man of his wealth and power, to care about a stray dog truly speaks to his humble nature. RIP Sir, you were a crown jewel of the post independence India. https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/ratan-ta…
On one hand, stray dogs are a joy for many Indians. For many months the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work and throwing bones to the assembled dogs. On the other hand, they enter homes and kill babies, attack children and adults and carry rabies epidemics. Right thing to do is to prevent more strays from happening.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Night shift/2nd shift is a thing.
> Night shift/2nd shift is a thing. Yes, of course and definitely I considered as I mention if he/she meant 2nd job, etc. Just the phrasing threw me off as it says 'day', then '10pm' and it's written as if it is a normal occurrence for the majority of the population (which would imply night shift/2nd shift is normal working times for the majority). Just wanted to get clarification from OP on exactly what was meant to…
A lot of people tend to work US/EU hours in India because they're "takin' yer herbs!!".
Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86
#37I don't think people outside India understand what Tata means. Who Ratan Tata was. He was not some random rich person who did some philanthropy. ~66% of everything that Tata companies make goes back to philanthropy and the people of India. And these days to people where Tata companies operates (I presume). To the TATAs, people are of primary importance. They are a behemoth of a group comparable to Samsung or other bi…
The reputation of the Tata group is not as stellar as it was under the leadership of JRD Tata. Nonetheless, it is one of the few large industrial groups in India to go above and beyond their commercial interests to look at the interests of Indians as a whole. I remember the day JRD Tata died. I was still in college then and I had an overwhelming sense of grief over his death. It was a huge loss to lose a man of his c…
Probably. I don't think it's possible to please everybody.
Also, under Rata Tata, Tata went truly global.
I can only presume that it means increased responsibilities & increased issues. JRD Tata didn't go through the same problems as Ratan Tata did.
And I don't mean that JRD Tata struggled less. Or more for the matter.
The problems were simply different.
There is also the fact that we humans are connected 24/7 unlike previous generations. This also means you don't hear the negativity or problems like we do today about someone. This is the norm these days. If you need to find the same for older generations, you really need to dig through it.
I say this cos everyone I admire from yester generations come out with a lot more mistakes and issues as I learn more about them. I find it humane. It just makes them human. What I admire about Ratan Tata is that he tried to be better person. As much as he can. And he was one of the nicest human as well. That is enough. :)
Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86
#38Throwaway account here, but I think we should be cautious about hero worship. While it's true that Tata has contributed positively in many areas, there are also significant controversies surrounding his legacy—like leasing coal mines for just 25 paise for 999 years before independence(1), among other issues(2) It's important to consider both the positives and negatives to form a well-rounded opinion. Let's aim to be…
So Ratan Tata was responsible for leasing coal mines in 1946 when he was 9 years old? At those prices, the guy was a **ing prodigy.
This is like aiming for the trees and missing the forest - the corrupt entity here is the Indian government which facilitates such corruption and monopolization and makes it hard for new entrants to compete.
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#39He was very humble person , never showed off his wealth, and mostly followed responsible capitalism, these are the reason why many indians see him as an inspiration.
RIP sir
Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86
#40Throwaway account here, but I think we should be cautious about hero worship. While it's true that Tata has contributed positively in many areas, there are also significant controversies surrounding his legacy—like leasing coal mines for just 25 paise for 999 years before independence(1), among other issues(2) It's important to consider both the positives and negatives to form a well-rounded opinion. Let's aim to be…
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