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It's a non profit. You're probably not choosing to work for the IA for high compensation.

The undertone was intended to be: that's an insane amount of money, something one with quadruple that amount of experience would maybe earn in a for-profit organisation, but I guess your reaction further proves it's different where you're from

It's not high for bay area software jobs; there are new grads who were paid more than that 10 years ago and I assume new grad wages have gone up since. Of course cost of living (particularly rent) and taxes are high there too, but if you don't blow it all on renting a higher-end place or luxuries you can still save a lot.

For context someone making less than $105k is classified as "low income" in San Francisco. https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/under-100k-low-income-s...

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50 PB * $0.014/GB = $0.7M. $0.014/GB is from[1], bare drive cost without chassis, power, or redundancy. 1: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-cost-per-gigabyte/

How long does an average hard drive last? You'd have to spend that 700k every that many years (plus the extra bits you mentioned). Quite an operation actually

I actually find that fairly tame. For a point of comparison, Wikipedia gets ~$150M in revenue a year, an "asset rise" (I presume this is what non-profits call profit?) of ~$15M a year, and is sitting on about a quarter billion in the bank.

Not that they want to, but I think Wikipedia could fund this using their current donations if they wanted. Hell, I almost wonder if one of the big storage providers would do it for free if they could do it in their staging environment so they get real traffic. It would be less good than real backups, but extra copies are still extra copies even if they're unreliable.

Re: Internet Archive: Security breach alert

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post #123
post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a non profit. You're probably not choosing to work for the IA for high compensation.

The undertone was intended to be: that's an insane amount of money, something one with quadruple that amount of experience would maybe earn in a for-profit organisation, but I guess your reaction further proves it's different where you're from

The way you worded it was confusing to read, I thought it was a complaint about "only 100k".

Thanks for clarifying your intent.

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There is a big difference between doing something for pure curiosity, love, or exploration and doing something directly harmful to other people for the same reasons. One is art; the other is sadism.

I'm not sure that placing free long distance calls isn't harmful to the org whose infrastructure you're using for your own benefit, but 2600 (Hz) is a respected hacker magazine and phreaking and Cap'n crunch whistles are seen as cool Hacking the Internet Archive and only placing an alert with a provocative message, I could see my teenage self do that. My judgment of the character is going to depend on what it turns o…

I get your point and your edit. I think most people reaction is less because of the destruction itself and more because The Internet Archive is being targeted. It is a place that most would say are representing the hacker values, and few such places exist on current internet landscape.

There are so many other possible targets that would get even positive reactions from people. The only kind of people that might be happy about TIA being down is maybe some big corporations that want to control and sell the information being freely preserved there.

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“According to their twitter, they’re doing it just to do it. Just because they can. No statement, no idea, no demands.” A special place in Hell…

That's a strange thing to read on Hacker news. Isn't that description the definition of hack value? As in http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hack-value.html Now, it depends what the "it" is referring to here, but so far all I've heard is about an alert() message saying the usernames will be sent to a breach alerting site. If they're doing it just for the heck of it, it's still costing a lot of people a lot of time tha…

This isn't Cracker News.

Re: Internet Archive: Security breach alert

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“According to their twitter, they’re doing it just to do it. Just because they can. No statement, no idea, no demands.” A special place in Hell…

>No statement, no idea, no demands. A special place in Hell… I mean... would it be better if the hackers had asked for money or did it to protest global warming or something?

Yes? For society in general, for professionals in criminal justice system and also to some extent even victim as well, it is lot harder when there is no motive.

Perpetrators without motive can not be negotiated with, punishment may not a strong deterrent, rehabilitation is lot harder. Economic crimes or crimes of passion or ones as a result of addiction can have a path to rehabilitation and recidivism can be solved by tackling the underlying issue like poverty, addition etc. Even solving crimes without motive can be harder as there is less assumptions we can make about the perpetrator.

Re: Internet Archive: Security breach alert

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More details here about the data breach. Stolen database contains 31 million records. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/internet-arch...

> The data will soon be added to HIBP My unique-to-archive.org email address is not there yet.

I just checked and my unique-to-archive.org email is showing up in the breach as of 2024-08-09.

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A pulled an old friends website down from Internet Archive. He's moved on the next stage, but I was glad I was able to put his site back up. It'll be a shame if IA goes down permanently, but we need a decentralized solution anyway. Having a single mega organization in charge of our collective heritage isn't a good idea.

I have always thought about this. It would be interesting to have users actually store small amounts of redundant info on a device connected to the internet. Very similarly to what a torrent does but with more peers (more data shards than full copies) and less seeds. And try and keep a huge database for everyone. Obviously open source and it would end up something like tor where they just assist the network with secu…

IIRC there were a few storage based projects that popped up using alt coins to encourage people to offer excess storage space for other randos on there internet. The possibility you might be storing illegal content might have been what killed it/them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_storage_cloud gives a few examples, like Filecoin.

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