Given the query, "baby peacock", doesn't describe something that actually exists, what results is Google expected to return? Actual baby peafowl? Cartoons of peacocks with "baby" proportions? Should they be consistent with the results for a similarly fanciful query like "baby rooster"?
Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated
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Well, and once this kills the web then Google's AI no longer has a data source its AI can tap to answer questions about anything that happens afterward, so it kind of needs the web to at least limp along.
Google was for the Open Web since day 1 but their aggressive ad based business model kind of doomed the Open Web because a lot of people were also incentivized cause of Google to aggressively peruse ad revenue. I think the first degree of separation between websites should be which ones are commercial and which ones are non-commercial. Of course that doesn't mean that commercial websites are bad because essentially w…
aggressively pursue ad revenue*
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I’ve been idly wondering about something like the Web of Trust. A social network where users vouch for one another's actually-a-real-humanness. There could be setting that let you adjust the size of the network you see (people you’ve actually met? One remove from that?)
What you’re describing is early Facebook. Your feed was only from your 1st degree connections. Content mattered because it was from people you cared about (and inherently knew, because users wouldn’t accept friend requests from people they didn't know). It really was the pinnacle of social media.
Wasn't this Instagram early on too? I think many social networks start off like this, but then either grow out of it and/or "sell out".
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See also the importing of millions of people whose worldviews we cannot reconcile with ours. It’s not just the HN crowd.
I think that said something about your worldview rather than those million.
The fact that you made a throwaway in order to make a personal attack rather than substantively engage with the point indicates that you don't actually have a good argument against it.
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#426Dang - what protections does HN use for AI generated comment garbage similar to this baby peacock issue?
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I use Kagi personally every day and my results are definitely not full of AI garbage so would like to better understand your context. Have you reported any of those issues to Kagi (support/discord/user forum)? We are pretty good at dealing with search quality issues.
Vladimir, when posting things like this, you might want to disclose that you're Kagi's CEO.
Hehe. He really should.
I’m not affiliated with Kagi in any way and my results are not full of LLM generated content either.
Though there is an LLM generated baby peacock pretty high in the image search, and when I go to the website it literally says that it is an example of an AI generated image and not a real baby peacock.
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You're correct of course leptons, but do please give credence to important shorthand. As I've put it before, the Internet is the battleground. Ground is not necessarily "neutral". It favours certain forces and tactics. See the "Nine Situations" [0] We used to occupy type-5 (open ground) which was also mostly type-2 (dispersive). We are now on "serious" and "difficult" ground. Therefore the environment itself is hosti…
If you replace "the internet" with "web browsers", you would be correct. "The internet" doesn't care what bits and bytes travel through it, nor who uses it.
Maybe if you've time for a long but very interesting read have a look
at this [0]. R. Berjon gives a good explanation of why the internet
(and we mean IP routing, DNS, BGP and ISP governance etc) is far from
a level system and what needs to be done to restore it to public
service as a global tool for the good of humanity.
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I use Kagi personally every day and my results are definitely not full of AI garbage so would like to better understand your context. Have you reported any of those issues to Kagi (support/discord/user forum)? We are pretty good at dealing with search quality issues.
Vladimir, when posting things like this, you might want to disclose that you're Kagi's CEO.
Most of the times I do, but it gets tiring as I post on HN a lot, and here I am primarly a HN user and have been one long before I've become a Kagi CEO. I feel that saying 'we' in the message (as I did) and having a clear disclaimer in my bio is enough.
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> Reddit is already lost. I was talking to the mods in a large political subreddit and they said after Reddit started charging for API access, all the tools they used to keep on top of the trolls and bots stopped working, and the quality of the whole subreddit declined visibly and dramatically. The whole point of the API access change was to charge AI model-makers. I'd be ironic if the API change made destroyed their…
Yes, everyone warned Spez about that at the time. He didn’t care, he wanted that IPO. Recently, they came around looking to recruit me. I told them fire Spez or fuck off. (17 year Reddit user here)
I used to moderate a fairly large subreddit, used to, I decided to leave and never come back after the API debacle, it was a long time coming though.
I think if the business model had been thought in the sense of the communities and involving mods and users in, it would have been genius, a lot of smaller companies would kill to have people genuinely recommending their products/tools that are hidden behind the biggest wall of them all...
Alas they completely ignored this as a viable avenue and went for the quick buck.
But this won't last and at some point people are going to move on from mass scraping, either because they already got what they want or because garbage goes in garbage comes out or because most of the content will be bot generated and require too much filtering to be useful.
Of course this is the opinion and rambling of a moderately educated individual and I might be totally wrong.
Change can often be for the best, pretty sure it wasn't in this case...