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Re: Wordpress.org Login: "I am not affiliated with WP Engine in any way"

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Post by baggy_trough »

vram22 wrote: post #89

Looks like the word "denounce" is not used in the right sense here, at least based on what I know, and on a quick google, although it may have another meaning that matches what was intended by the writer of the article. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/denounce

Should be "renounce" presumably.

Re: Wordpress.org Login: "I am not affiliated with WP Engine in any way"

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Post by weikju »

vram22 wrote: post #89

Looks like the word "denounce" is not used in the right sense here, at least based on what I know, and on a quick google, although it may have another meaning that matches what was intended by the writer of the article. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/denounce

Maybe the word should be : renounce?

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/renounce

Re: Wordpress.org Login: "I am not affiliated with WP Engine in any way"

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Post by QQ00 »

dylan604 wrote: post #90

This whole bit of drama really makes me glad I never invested time/energy in WordPress. It's like Real Housewives of Computer Nerds level of whining, and feels just as fake. Regardless of right/wrong, the whole thing has just turned into a 80s made for TV type of situation. There was a much better way at handling this, but somebody had access to social media and the wheels promptly fell off.

but what's better alternative aside from rolling your own CMS?

Re: Wordpress.org Login: "I am not affiliated with WP Engine in any way"

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Post by i_am_jl »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #88

“WP Engine is free to offer their hacked up, bastardized simulacra of WordPress’s GPL code to their customers, and they can experience WordPress as WP Engine envisions it" Does anyone know what the context about this is? What did WP-Engine change which Matt disliked? As I understand they were disabling page revision history (but would enable it if you asked) and only because they had some other proprietary to wp-engi…

WordPress doesn't like products/orgs that offer services related to WordPress using "WP" in their name to imply affiliation with WordPress. WordPress has recently updated their terms of use to reflect this.

Matt is also on record criticizing WP Engine for never having donated to the WordPress Foundation.

This is all coming to light after the breakdown of licensing negotiations between Automattic and WPEngine

EDIT: https://www.therepository.email/mullenweg-threatens-corporat...

Re: Wordpress.org Login: "I am not affiliated with WP Engine in any way"

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Post by bloppe »

lovethevoid wrote: post #91
iamronaldo wrote: post #74

I spoke to matt and he seemed nice enough to me so for me its weird to see such a radical stance from him on something like this

He sounds like a multi faceted person to me

Everybody sounds insane when they let themselves get involved in internet flame wars.

Re: Wordpress.org Login: "I am not affiliated with WP Engine in any way"

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Post by unsnap_biceps »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #88

“WP Engine is free to offer their hacked up, bastardized simulacra of WordPress’s GPL code to their customers, and they can experience WordPress as WP Engine envisions it" Does anyone know what the context about this is? What did WP-Engine change which Matt disliked? As I understand they were disabling page revision history (but would enable it if you asked) and only because they had some other proprietary to wp-engi…

Per https://wordpress.org/news/2024/09/wp-engine-banned/ and https://x.com/photomatt/status/1838502185879167069

I believe that WPEngine disabling the admin news feed that displayed his posts directly to WPEngine's customers was the tipping point for calling it a hacked up, bastardized simulacra

Re: Wordpress.org Login: "I am not affiliated with WP Engine in any way"

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Post by [deleted] »

QQ00 wrote: post #94
dylan604 wrote: post #90

This whole bit of drama really makes me glad I never invested time/energy in WordPress. It's like Real Housewives of Computer Nerds level of whining, and feels just as fake. Regardless of right/wrong, the whole thing has just turned into a 80s made for TV type of situation. There was a much better way at handling this, but somebody had access to social media and the wheels promptly fell off.

but what's better alternative aside from rolling your own CMS?

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Re: Wordpress.org Login: "I am not affiliated with WP Engine in any way"

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Post by Zak »

dylan604 wrote: post #90

This whole bit of drama really makes me glad I never invested time/energy in WordPress. It's like Real Housewives of Computer Nerds level of whining, and feels just as fake. Regardless of right/wrong, the whole thing has just turned into a 80s made for TV type of situation. There was a much better way at handling this, but somebody had access to social media and the wheels promptly fell off.

The nice thing is it's GPL, so the founder/owner can't just take his ball and go home. It's also widely-used/important enough that it will get forked if leadership problems start to make it unusable for too many people.
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