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Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by victor106 »

infecto wrote: post #231
elisharobinson wrote: post #221

Some of the reasons why this is happening : -> Getting an assignment in the US is viewed as a reward for employees who work in the company for 5+ years. -> H1B visa employess are given a 50% minimum discount to market rate. cause lol what are you gonna do . Quit and go back in the Queue for H1B. -> nepotism / favoritism self explanatory. -> Are more willing to work 40+ hours a week. Less likely to take vacations. The…

Is that discount really true? There is a definite discount but I have never seen 50%, all of this data is online, you can see the payroll for H1B employees. https://h1bdata.info/

I have personally experienced this in all my previous projects and my current one.

H1B does suppress wages as employees don’t care how much they are paid. They only care that they stay on H1 so they get their green cards.

However, one they get their green card they feel the same that H1B’s suppress wages…lol…

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Post by jackcosgrove »

newaccount321 wrote: post #84
seper8 wrote: post #11

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I do expect new arrivals to acculturate, not to Judeo-Christian values but rather to liberalism. (In the philosophical sense, not the bastardized way the term is used in American politics.)

This is because liberalism evolved as a response to sectarianism and developed tools to allow people with different worldviews to live and work together.

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by elisharobinson »

infecto wrote: post #231
elisharobinson wrote: post #221

Some of the reasons why this is happening : -> Getting an assignment in the US is viewed as a reward for employees who work in the company for 5+ years. -> H1B visa employess are given a 50% minimum discount to market rate. cause lol what are you gonna do . Quit and go back in the Queue for H1B. -> nepotism / favoritism self explanatory. -> Are more willing to work 40+ hours a week. Less likely to take vacations. The…

Is that discount really true? There is a definite discount but I have never seen 50%, all of this data is online, you can see the payroll for H1B employees. https://h1bdata.info/

thanks for the ref , but it kinda proves the point . your source suggests the avg comp for senior software engineer is 100-150 K . on glass door it 178-263 . https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/senior-software-engineer-... .

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by dartharva »

lazide wrote: post #8
varun_chopra wrote: post #4

Is anyone really surprised? At the risk of sounding racist (though I'm Indian, so I guess I get some leeway here), there are likely more biases at play than it seems. You’ll see South or North Indians from a particular state prefer hiring employees from the same state, who speak the same language, and who look like them. And it doesn’t stop there. Caste discrimination plays a role too, and it even has its own Wiki pa…

The beauty of casteism, and religious discrimination (and less so racism/sexism, though it is certainly possible ) is the near fractal nature of the ability to discriminate against someone. After all, there are 3000 ‘main’ castes and 25,000 sub-castes. [ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India ], and with religious discrimination you can always go into sectarianism/what guru to follow. It’s the discrimi…

All discrimination is contextual and local. The number of groups has nothing to do with it.

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Post by bjourne »

fakedang wrote: post #106
Dalewyn wrote: post #50

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>collectivism and subservience towards authority figures are taught as virtues Remind me to never fly on a plane piloted by an Indian flight crew. (Protip: If you can't stand up to your captain, your plane is going down.)

> Remind me to never fly on a plane piloted by an Indian flight crew. (Protip: If you can't stand up to your captain, your plane is going down.) Not sure if you're joking, but this is actually cited as one of the reasons behind one crash. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Express_Flight_134...

Same with South Korean airline crashes: https://www.salon.com/2013/07/10/cnn_asks_if_koreas_hierarch... But who knows if any of this is true or if "hierarchical cultures cause airline crashes" is just pop-sci bs.

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Post by bryanlarsen »

rcbaF wrote: post #229
dopylitty wrote: post #210

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Nothing? Trump talks a lot. He didn't "drain the swamp" while he was president and he did not release the Kennedy CIA archives (he promised both). He'll get a call from Thiel or Musk that they still need H1Bs, and that will be the end of it. (I still think Trump is the lesser evil, since he is far more competent in foreign policy and the economy will improve. And he does exactly nothing w.r.t the scary sounding elect…

> since he is far more competent in foreign policy

The guy foreign leaders call the "laughing fool"?

> the economy will improve.

Trump's plans would cause the economy to shrink by 10% and cause 28% inflation, according to independent analysis. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/26/business/economy/trump-ec...

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Post by throw49sjwo1 »

physicsguy wrote: post #59
throw49sjwo1 wrote: post #47

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Nobody (important) wanted that, though. It was done only because the cloud wasn't available, the moment it became available every big company migrated.

The rise of self-hosted GitLab and GHES suggests that's not true.

Rise? I don't see anything other than migration to cloud.

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Post by [deleted] »

elisharobinson wrote: post #221

Some of the reasons why this is happening : -> Getting an assignment in the US is viewed as a reward for employees who work in the company for 5+ years. -> H1B visa employess are given a 50% minimum discount to market rate. cause lol what are you gonna do . Quit and go back in the Queue for H1B. -> nepotism / favoritism self explanatory. -> Are more willing to work 40+ hours a week. Less likely to take vacations. The…

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Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by [deleted] »

bobosha wrote: post #144

I am a proud Indian-American (naturalized after h1b) and I think this kind of discriminatory mindset has no place anywhere, definitely not in the workplace. I think my community can be secure in its success and learn to do better and be open to critique. Let's work to abolish these attitudes by being more self-aware and raising awareness & use cautionary tales like this as a wake-up call.

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Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by throw49sjwo1 »

dx034 wrote: post #55
throw49sjwo1 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody (important) wanted that, though. It was done only because the cloud wasn't available, the moment it became available every big company migrated.

Not true. I‘ve been at several companies that self host Jira. With the amount of critical data and processes in Jira, it can be comforting to have it on-prem with no one else being able to access the server.

Are you sure they're not just "preparing for the migration" and plan to stay on premise? I also worked at many places that had it on premise - all of them planned to migrate ASAP (where asap is sometimes years).
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