More significantly: it has yet to be especially impactful in biochemistry research, nor has its results really been carefully audited. Maybe it will turn out to deserve the prize. But the committee needed to wait. I am concerned that they got spun by Google's PR campaign - or, considering yesterday's prize, Big Tech PR in general.
Chemistry Nobel: Computational protein design and protein structure prediction
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Re: Chemistry Nobel: Computational protein design and protein structure prediction
#102Re: Chemistry Nobel: Computational protein design and protein structure prediction
#103While I am skeptical about yesterdays award in physics, these are totally deserved and spot on. There are few approaches that will accelerate the field of drug development and chemistry as a whole in a way that the works of these three people will. Congratulations!
I was just wondering when they were going to award the alphafold2 guys the nobel after after seeing Hinton win the physics one. 100% agree, all three of them totally deserve this one. Baker's lab is pretty much keeping Deepmind in check at this point and ensuring open source research is keeping up. Hats off
I mean this is a fast award cycle.
Re: Chemistry Nobel: Computational protein design and protein structure prediction
#104Re: Chemistry Nobel: Computational protein design and protein structure prediction
#105The AlphaFold paper has countless authors, many researchers and company resources underlying it. Hassabis’ contribution is management of resources and entrepreneurship, not the actual science. There are hundreds of thousands of scientists out there doing deep technical work, and they aren’t recognized. I think we might be the end of it, as the emphasis shifts to commercialization and product development. These AI dem…
So can we expect that Sam Altman will be honored with Nobel prize 2025? After all physics prize went to AI researchers this year, and chemistry prize went to an organizational head.
Just because there is a ton of hype from OpenAI doesn't detract from what DeepMind has done. AlphaGo anybody?
Are we really already forgetting what a monumental problem protein folding was, decades of research, and AlphaFold came in and revolutionized it overnight.
We are pretty jaded these days when miracles are happening all the time and people are like "yeah, but he's just a manager 'now', what have they done for me in the last few days".
Re: Chemistry Nobel: Computational protein design and protein structure prediction
#106While I am skeptical about yesterdays award in physics, these are totally deserved and spot on. There are few approaches that will accelerate the field of drug development and chemistry as a whole in a way that the works of these three people will. Congratulations!
The physics prize should have went to Elon Musk! Also I really hope the Nobel Prize of Economics goes to Bill Gates! He facilitated sooo much advances by releasing Excel that this must be recognized! And based on this year's announcements so far I am not sure that my sarcastic comments should be taken as a joke!
Re: Chemistry Nobel: Computational protein design and protein structure prediction
#107I think putting AlphaFold here was premature; it might not age well. AlphaFold is an impressive achievement but it simply has not "cracked the code for protein folding" - about 1/3rd of its predictions are too uncertain to be usable, it says nothing about dynamics, suffers from the same ML problems of failing on uncommon structures, and I was surprised to learn that many of its predictions are incorrect because it ig…
Re: Chemistry Nobel: Computational protein design and protein structure prediction
#108Here's a direct quote from the Alphafold paper: "These authors contributed equally: John Jumper, Richard Evans, Alexander Pritzel, Tim Green, Michael Figurnov, Olaf Ronneberger, Kathryn Tunyasuvunakool, Russ Bates, Augustin Žídek, Anna Potapenko, Alex Bridgland, Clemens Meyer, Simon A. A. Kohl, Andrew J. Ballard, Andrew Cowie, Bernardino Romera-Paredes, Stanislav Nikolov, Rishub Jain, Demis Hassabis"
Here's 8 densely printed pages of contributors to a discovery that lead to a Nobel prize: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1207.7214#page=26 Guess how many of them were included in the prize. It's a shame that the Nobel committee shies away from awarding it to institutions, but the AlphaFold prize doesn't even make the top 10 in a list of most controversial omissions from a Nobel prize. It's a simple case of lab director gets t…
Re: Chemistry Nobel: Computational protein design and protein structure prediction
#109Here's a direct quote from the Alphafold paper: "These authors contributed equally: John Jumper, Richard Evans, Alexander Pritzel, Tim Green, Michael Figurnov, Olaf Ronneberger, Kathryn Tunyasuvunakool, Russ Bates, Augustin Žídek, Anna Potapenko, Alex Bridgland, Clemens Meyer, Simon A. A. Kohl, Andrew J. Ballard, Andrew Cowie, Bernardino Romera-Paredes, Stanislav Nikolov, Rishub Jain, Demis Hassabis"
They didnt give the award to the paper