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Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by mc32 »

dopylitty wrote: post #210
JohnBrookz wrote: post #44

This happened at intel and was very noticeable even back in 2010. Indians hires other Indians. At every company I’ve been at if you were not Indian you were not invited to the conversation. Sitting in meetings where you were excluded from 30% of the conversation was wild. I never felt like they were rude or anything though- just that I was an outsider. Best team I worked with was very diverse and they actively worked…

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He talks of deporting illegal immigtants —something Harris also now claims is a problem and moreover claims they are more efficient at the border than Trump was ;that’s a dubious claim but it shows she sees it as a problem as well. Over 60% of voters also see illegal immigration as a very serious problem, more see it as an issue. In addition India itself is strict and also deports illegals.

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by atcognizant »

Some of favorite coworkers have been from India during my career. This includes both their personalities as I got to know them and their demeanor at work.

I have worked at Cognizant for just over a year. Though we don't have this problem on my immediate team, it is something we talk about because it's obvious in other teams and as an overall culture at the company.

It doesn't seem like overt discrimination (from me and my coworkers limited perspectives). There's a couple factors

1. People hire who they know. About two thirds of the employees are of Indian descent. So on average they hire their friends and former coworkers who are also Indian.

2. Leadership requires the offshore teams to be on every project. This is to keep costs down and because the other lines of business besides their main and original one (staff augmentation) are relatively new.

3. A minority (but not a small one) of Indians really are just blatantly discriminatory.

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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JohnBrookz wrote: post #44

This happened at intel and was very noticeable even back in 2010. Indians hires other Indians. At every company I’ve been at if you were not Indian you were not invited to the conversation. Sitting in meetings where you were excluded from 30% of the conversation was wild. I never felt like they were rude or anything though- just that I was an outsider. Best team I worked with was very diverse and they actively worked…

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Post by ttyprintk »

the_gorilla wrote: post #177
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean "allows them"? Whatever happened to the ideals of freedom and liberty and whatnot in the US?

American States have their own culture and identity. The ideals of America was never being an economic zone to house the entire third world, who think the only utility of a state should be to fly over it.

The founding of the American colonies was very much a gutter for economic classes. Warren Buffet wouldn’t exist today without European trash being indentured.

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Post by gedy »

quadrifoliate wrote: post #135
loufe wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's an unfairly dismissive take and the "going to restaurants" bit is a mischaracterization at best. There massive difference is WHERE the discrimination is taking place. Most would not move to India or any other place and impose their culture and exclude locals in a fair and just world. I'm not saying it doesn't take place, and yes colonialism happened and was far worse, but we're talking about what SHOUL…

> Most would not move to India or any other place and impose their culture and exclude locals in a fair and just world. I'm trying to say that going to restaurants as a group of people and having in-jokes does not qualify as "imposing your culture" in any way. These things routinely happen at companies that have few to no Indians, they just take a different form. Also, are you really claiming that if you moved to Ban…

The better question is: if you had a Bangalore company founded by Indians, then a management hire from the US or Britain started hiring immigrants from there too, and they excluded or sidelined Indians, especially ones who didn't speak English - you'd be annoyed too right?

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Post by dartharva »

JohnBrookz wrote: post #44

This happened at intel and was very noticeable even back in 2010. Indians hires other Indians. At every company I’ve been at if you were not Indian you were not invited to the conversation. Sitting in meetings where you were excluded from 30% of the conversation was wild. I never felt like they were rude or anything though- just that I was an outsider. Best team I worked with was very diverse and they actively worked…

If this has really been going on for more than a decade I wonder what your labor regulators are doing. This is a clear-cut issue of bad labor policy.

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Post by quadrifoliate »

logicchains wrote: post #7
eastbound wrote: post #5

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Which explains why its market value is hovering at $160 while its former worth, when it was properly managed, was $3-400. Am I spot on? The problem is that every Fortune 500’s internal systems are hooked up to it.

Atlassian? As a user, I haven't noticed any decline in quality; it's just as painful to use now as it was a decade ago.

This. Every single Atlassian product I have used has always been painfully slow garbage; and I have been forced to use them at various jobs over a decade.

I don't think it was ever a magically good Australian product that Indian hires from Microsoft suddenly ruined.

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Post by [deleted] »

eru wrote: post #188

Since there's a lot of negativity about Indians in the comments here: I just worked for a startup with many Indians (including the founder). It was all fine, and I liked my coworkers. I can understand that other people had different experiences: companies and people differ. For context, everything was remote, and I worked from Singapore. I'm not India, but I do like to prepone my meetings.

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