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Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by infecto »

elisharobinson wrote: post #221

Some of the reasons why this is happening : -> Getting an assignment in the US is viewed as a reward for employees who work in the company for 5+ years. -> H1B visa employess are given a 50% minimum discount to market rate. cause lol what are you gonna do . Quit and go back in the Queue for H1B. -> nepotism / favoritism self explanatory. -> Are more willing to work 40+ hours a week. Less likely to take vacations. The…

Is that discount really true? There is a definite discount but I have never seen 50%, all of this data is online, you can see the payroll for H1B employees.

https://h1bdata.info/

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Post by smcl »

mdorazio wrote: post #83
quadrifoliate wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Indians bringing Indian jokes to the table, with no outsider hoping to understand these. Indians bonding to go to Indian restaurants during lunch break, so now most of the colleagues follow suit, how to stop it all? Are you seriously asking how to "fight back" on Indians going to restaurants and joking with each other? As an Indian in a flyover state who has been routinely excluded from golfing events, and had my d…

The parent post was clearly asking how to fight back against a culture of exclusionism against non-Indians, which leads to racism.

I would hope any sensible person would look at two comments by two people saying that they are being excluded by each others groups and think "the issue is people being excluded because they are not part of the 'in' group in their workplace, and people should work to be more inclusive" rather than concluding that the problem lies with Indian or non-Indian people specifically

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by AlexandrB »

dopylitty wrote: post #210
JohnBrookz wrote: post #44

This happened at intel and was very noticeable even back in 2010. Indians hires other Indians. At every company I’ve been at if you were not Indian you were not invited to the conversation. Sitting in meetings where you were excluded from 30% of the conversation was wild. I never felt like they were rude or anything though- just that I was an outsider. Best team I worked with was very diverse and they actively worked…

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Highly misleading. From 1:

> During an exclusive interview with NewsNation, Trump said he planned to strip the legal status of the Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, who have been granted Temporary Protected Status.

Temporary Protected Status[0] is not nearly the same thing as having a green card or being naturalized.

[0] https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/temporary-protected-statu...

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by ttyprintk »

the_gorilla wrote: post #175
quadrifoliate wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am just using a signature American phrase[1]. If anything, this is a mark of how assimilated I am! I mean no contempt; I am happy to live in a flyover state. Also, the state did not "allow me" to live here, the Federal Government did; as anyone with an elementary knowledge of American government principles should be able to discern. Your response though, seems to show some anti-immigrant anger. I am sorry you feel…

What do you think the word "Flyover" means? You live in it now, they let you in so you're not flying over it. It's obviously derogatory, and even your link says it's derogatory. That'd be like me going to India, and then complaining "As an American living next to untouchables..."

His/her comment articulately justifies using it. And the context is relevant because Americans assume and observe differences off the coasts.

Flyover practically means “does not have a football team” and is just as derogatory as “college town” or “Bible belt”.

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by jackcosgrove »

fakedang wrote: post #119

I wrote about this in another comment, but I've typically found that public US companies hiring a majority of Indian/Indian-origin staff seem to perform (in market cap terms) on par with companies have just 10% of their total employee headcount.

Even if true it doesn't prove anything because the arrow of causation could go either way. These businesses could be already worse from a financial or working environment perspective, and thus unable to hire from a pool of workers who have more options.

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Post by quadrifoliate »

karpatic wrote: post #134
1over137 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Non-Hispanic white Americans are not native to the US... The word Hispanic comes from Hispania meaning "Iberian Peninsula", which, I have news for you, is in Europe. They are hardly native to the USA either.

It was an amazing statement to read. I'm glad someone else caught that

I am aware of Hispania, etc. The thing you're perhaps missing is that 'minignape began their comment with "as a white person...".

That is usually a characterization used by non-Hispanic white people; hence my reply referenced non-Hispanic whites. I also wanted to highlight that they would probably be tolerant of an unfamiliar Hispanic white in-group at their company, but weren't tolerant of a South Asian one.

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Post by mr90210 »

I am going to disclose my own bias here: I tend to look for multicultural teams and somewhat evenly distributed.

As an African so far I have worked and learnt a lot from a Brazilian-Japanese, Bulgarian, Portuguese, Dutch, Belgian, Israeli, Russian, English, Indian, Pakistani, German, Argentinian, and a Polish.

Some of which I have the pleasure to call friend.

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by sandworm101 »

throwawayha wrote: post #207
JohnBrookz wrote: post #44

This happened at intel and was very noticeable even back in 2010. Indians hires other Indians. At every company I’ve been at if you were not Indian you were not invited to the conversation. Sitting in meetings where you were excluded from 30% of the conversation was wild. I never felt like they were rude or anything though- just that I was an outsider. Best team I worked with was very diverse and they actively worked…

There was an article exposing it wasn't just for / between Indians. Indians were actively discriminating against other Indians if they weren't born into the "highest" caste of hinduism (the few percent only allowed to learn to read and write), or avoiding the "lowest caste" of hinduism (way over 90 percent). This caste system discrimination in tech, is also used to discriminate against other minorities who are not In…

Canada has been dealing with this more proactively than most counties with Indian diasporas, a process no doubt aided by the by the significant number of indo-canadian politicians familiar with the issue.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-human-rights-...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/caste-discri...

https://www.trtworld.com/americas/toronto-school-board-recog...

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Post by tock »

fennecfoxy wrote: post #228
tock wrote: post #212

It's weird how racism against Indians online is so normalised. I see the same on reddit too.

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Just my experience. I reckon a lot of recent events like buying oil from Russia has sadly justified it for a lot of people.
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