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Nobody (important) wanted that, though. It was done only because the cloud wasn't available, the moment it became available every big company migrated.
The rise of self-hosted GitLab and GHES suggests that's not true.
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#72My guess would be that a lot of non-Indians at these companies are rejected on the basis of "vibes"; which is slightly different from racism as I explain below, although it probably ends up having the same net effect as overt racism. As an Indian, I've observed that collectivism and subservience towards authority figures are taught as virtues; this obviously makes it quite easy for employers to extract unreasonable d…
>collectivism and subservience towards authority figures are taught as virtues Remind me to never fly on a plane piloted by an Indian flight crew. (Protip: If you can't stand up to your captain, your plane is going down.)
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#73How to fight back when you see this happening at line management level, but not yet proliferated to upper management? Indian product owner taking mostly to Indian peer developers, bypassing normal communication channels. Indians being friendly with each other and stone cold with the rest. Indians bringing Indian jokes to the table, with no outsider hoping to understand these. Indians bonding to go to Indian restauran…
Are you seriously asking how to "fight back" on Indians going to restaurants and joking with each other?
As an Indian in a flyover state who has been routinely excluded from golfing events, and had my dietary needs totally ignored while organizing things like steakhouse lunches, this is sort of darkly funny to read.
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Best course of action is symmetrical response.
I’m gonna dip into politics a bit for my assertion that “fight racism with racism” isn’t a great move, either for the societal long term or the personal/legal short term.
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#76Seeing this happen at an originally Australian unicorn after the technical co-founder stepped down and new CTO swapped out all of their engineering leadership with Indian hires from Microsoft. Previously saw it at a lesser degree to older unicorns and places like Oracle, IBM, etc. Although it’s normalised in the latter ones.
If I posted a comment complaining about how black Americans are criminals, I think I’d rightfully be called out for oversimplifying in a hurtful way. What am I missing here?
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A decade ago, you could self-host though.
Nobody (important) wanted that, though. It was done only because the cloud wasn't available, the moment it became available every big company migrated.
Done badly it meant you suffocated the application server with too little resources giving dreaded "super slow JIRA" effect.
Done well it meant you didn't have to deal with Atlassian underprovisioning resources in the cloud or having rigid maintenance times that didn't fit with your company needs.
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#80How to fight back when you see this happening at line management level, but not yet proliferated to upper management? Indian product owner taking mostly to Indian peer developers, bypassing normal communication channels. Indians being friendly with each other and stone cold with the rest. Indians bringing Indian jokes to the table, with no outsider hoping to understand these. Indians bonding to go to Indian restauran…