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Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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I am seeing the flight to low cost countries now termed as "Best" cost countries is afoot in Europe. Germany has shot itself in the foot by destroying its energy sector. Now that the energy prices have shot through the roof most of the industries are going to get outsourced. The thirst for cheap labour and where the laws especially labour laws are lax is a wet dream for management.

Hm, the available data does not support your point/sentiment that energy prices are increasing for industrial customers in Germany. (see https://www.bdew.de/service/daten-und-grafiken/bdew-strompre... or https://www.statista.com/statistics/1050448/industrial-elect...)

From https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/industry-electricity-pr...

> Economist and economy ministry advisor Jens Südekum called the analysis’s results “astonishing.” Commenting on social media platform X, Südekum pointed out that industry prices had fallen “significantly” and that price indicators continued to point downwards. The trend would be similar for private households, albeit at a slower pace, he argued. Once current contracts expire, Südekum said lower prices should become widespread in new ones. “Overall, the BDEW figures don’t chime with current mood in debates, which is that everything is going down the drain due to high energy prices,” he argued.

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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How to fight back when you see this happening at line management level, but not yet proliferated to upper management?

Indian product owner taking mostly to Indian peer developers, bypassing normal communication channels. Indians being friendly with each other and stone cold with the rest.

Indians bringing Indian jokes to the table, with no outsider hoping to understand these. Indians bonding to go to Indian restaurants during lunch break, so now most of the colleagues follow suit, how to stop it all?

All these culture things (except for the first regarding PO which is spit-in-the-face level of unprofessionalism) add up, and then you find yourself in a corporation described in other messages of this thread.

I had to offboard from multiple projects throughout my career because development was hijacked by Indian cronyism.

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A decade ago, you could self-host though.

Nobody (important) wanted that, though. It was done only because the cloud wasn't available, the moment it became available every big company migrated.

Not true. I‘ve been at several companies that self host Jira. With the amount of critical data and processes in Jira, it can be comforting to have it on-prem with no one else being able to access the server.

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Racism is embedded in human nature and in every culture. Though it takes different forms. I don't think "Indians" deserve any special mention on that one.

It's telling that we're quick to ascribe anything bad to "human nature" while balking at the notion that anything positive might also be human nature. Greed and exploitation? Yes, absolutely, human nature, nothing you can do about it. Racism? Totally human nature, just look at this random animal species. Cooperation, trust, hospitality? No, those must be unique virtues expressed only by the pure of heart or the naive, just think of the wolves.

Nevermind that "race" as a concept did not exist in the modern sense in Western cultures prior to colonization despite the exposure to other peoples with other skin tones from other parts of the world. Nevermind that cooperation and aiding the weak and forming alliances has been the only thing keeping us alive as naked, defenseless animals that need to sustain our young for years before they can carry their weight, feed themselves, let alone fend for themselves.

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A decade ago, you could self-host though.

Nobody (important) wanted that, though. It was done only because the cloud wasn't available, the moment it became available every big company migrated.

The rise of self-hosted GitLab and GHES suggests that's not true.

Re: Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees

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How to fight back when you see this happening at line management level, but not yet proliferated to upper management? Indian product owner taking mostly to Indian peer developers, bypassing normal communication channels. Indians being friendly with each other and stone cold with the rest. Indians bringing Indian jokes to the table, with no outsider hoping to understand these. Indians bonding to go to Indian restauran…

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