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Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Why is a pill press a problem? Are people not allowed the freedom and bodily autonomy to make pills for themselves?

it's regulated as part of the illicit drug supply chain. you can own a pill press just as you can a firearm, as long as you register it and follow the rules.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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I would never rely entirely on eBay. I am currently jousting with a scammer who I sold a MacBook Pro to and they returned one with a different serial number and claim it was broken. They bought something working from me and returned their broken one intentionally. The buyer has perfect feedback as well because there is no recourse and you can't leave feedback for them any more so you can't even identify a scammer. Finding anyone at eBay who gives a crap about this past the tracking was updated to delivered to me is impossible even though apparently I'm covered for seller protection.

I've called them a couple of times and I get the inevitable "thanks for being a loyal customer for more than 10 years speech" and then "we're sorry but there's nothing we can do". I have put over £150k through them in the last decade while emptying out two dead parents' houses which they dutifully took a 9-30% cut on.

It is the ultimate automated and unregulated bureaucracy.

I'm at the end of my tether on this so I closed my mule bank account which ebay uses and will deal with their appointed DCA instead who probably has better customer service.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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I don't know if there are comments or not since I don't have a Twitter... but did she get banned because that's a pill press? Is it a pill press, I'm only guessing.

"eBay to Pay $59 Million to Settle Controlled Substances Act Allegations Related to Pill Presses Sold Through Its Website" https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/02/01/ebay-pay-59-mi... Just to be clear, I'm not saying this justifies the response. I'm just clarifying what may have prompted this serious over-reaction by ebay.

pill press is a pill press... antique and broken does not mean it can not still be fixed. So, yes. I see the point of eBay too. But reading the messages, I am confused it the listing got removed or not. She got several temporary bans for the same listing, and never listed it again; so I can only assume it was closed (not removed?).

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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I don't know if there are comments or not since I don't have a Twitter... but did she get banned because that's a pill press? Is it a pill press, I'm only guessing.

"eBay to Pay $59 Million to Settle Controlled Substances Act Allegations Related to Pill Presses Sold Through Its Website" https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/02/01/ebay-pay-59-mi... Just to be clear, I'm not saying this justifies the response. I'm just clarifying what may have prompted this serious over-reaction by ebay.

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Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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As someone who also has a seller account with 20+ years of history, I feel for this person. Sure, you can (probably) start a new account -- unless they're now doing some kind of Real ID validation -- but that's likely a lot of karma and "A+++ seller" reviews to build back up. I jest slightly but a track record as a trusted seller definitely does result in more business.

Also, Cassie should be aware that, historically, eBay _does not take well_ to high profile, public criticism: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236...

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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I don't know if there are comments or not since I don't have a Twitter... but did she get banned because that's a pill press? Is it a pill press, I'm only guessing.

Looks like an antique pill press. Feels innocent enough, but it's probably still illegal. Seems like a zero-tolerance policy (ban for life for a single mistake) might not be the right balance, though.

I'm not a lawyer, but I can't imagine any judge ruling that it is illegal.

A sword which has been beaten into a plowshare is no longer a sword, and an inoperative 140 year old pill press is no longer a pill press.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Some people is these threads wrote as if the item was "delisted". This is what she wrote: "I listed it in July and it sold in August." It was not delisted. It was sold.

EBay had opportunity to delist a "pill press" before she sold it, or even warn her before she listed it, but chose not to. They seem then to have chosen the worst, most unempathetic response, and then to double down repeatedly.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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As someone who also has a seller account with 20+ years of history, I feel for this person. Sure, you can (probably) start a new account -- unless they're now doing some kind of Real ID validation -- but that's likely a lot of karma and "A+++ seller" reviews to build back up. I jest slightly but a track record as a trusted seller definitely does result in more business. Also, Cassie should be aware that, historically…

Wow. It's looking worse and worse for EBay.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Why is a pill press a problem? Are people not allowed the freedom and bodily autonomy to make pills for themselves?

it's regulated as part of the illicit drug supply chain. you can own a pill press just as you can a firearm, as long as you register it and follow the rules.

Reminds how back in USSR you had to register typewriters - each country has its own fears. I wonder though what is so special about pill press - as far as i see any press, manual or mechanized, can be used to press pills. Does it mean that all presses should be registered?

Also reminds how back then, when i was relatively new to the US, veterinary giving me a syringe instructed me to put it into a pocket to make sure it isn't visible. I was perplexed to say the least - hide plastic syringe from view in a country where i had heard you can walk openly on the street with semi-automatic version of Kalashnikov :)

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