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Who died and left the US $7B?

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Re: Who died and left the US $7B?

#21
Matt Levine touched on this briefly today, and I liked his two cents:

>It’s kind of cool? Like you could imagine a hierarchy, in roughly ascending order of wealth:

>Too poor to pay taxes.

>Rich enough to pay taxes.

>Rich enough to not pay taxes.

>Rich enough to not even bother with not paying taxes.

Re: Who died and left the US $7B?

#23
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes about 30 seconds for the US National Debt clock ( https://www.usdebtclock.org/ ) to tick off $1 million, so almost 2.5 days to tick off $7 billion. I'd say $7 billion covers much more than 3 seconds of interest.

even in your "correct" math, your comment doesn't really improve the ridiculously small amount of moving of a needle that this would make

"Even if I was wrong by many orders of magnitude, I'm still correct!"

Re: Who died and left the US $7B?

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes about 30 seconds for the US National Debt clock ( https://www.usdebtclock.org/ ) to tick off $1 million, so almost 2.5 days to tick off $7 billion. I'd say $7 billion covers much more than 3 seconds of interest.

even in your "correct" math, your comment doesn't really improve the ridiculously small amount of moving of a needle that this would make

I mean... so I just noticed the "US Total Interest Paid" clock. That takes about 45 seconds to tick over $1 million, so $7 billion covers ~1% of the interest payments in a year.

That seems like a sizable contribution for a single person in a country of 330 million.

Re: Who died and left the US $7B?

#25
post #10

Pretty obscene that somebody could have so much wealth that $7,000,000,000 is just the tax bill. Also weird that it's framed as a "gift."

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It's draconian to have some upper limit on wealth? what if a small number of people managed to, legally, extract wealth to the point where we all became vassals? (Or is that what we've already gone very far towards?)

Re: Who died and left the US $7B?

#26
post #10

Pretty obscene that somebody could have so much wealth that $7,000,000,000 is just the tax bill. Also weird that it's framed as a "gift."

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"Mutual" implies lack of coercion, which doesn't exist under capitalism, since the ownership class leverages significantly greater political power than the working class.

Re: Who died and left the US $7B?

#27
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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Left does not mean gift, it's a common term which applies when politely referring to the a recipient of an inheritance.

Left means a gift via inheritance, which is the exact opposite of an estate tax (it's not a gift or via inheritance, it's a tax on the value of an estate and paid before distribution).

They could have squandered the money or given it away.

They could could have blown it on building a pyramid to house their corpse.

The government is not entitled to the assets.

Re: Who died and left the US $7B?

#28
post #16

My takeaway: Forbes rich list amounts are basically fictional. Do you think they are devoting the kind of resources it would take to unravel each billionaire's finances? Clearly not. If it's mostly large sharehioldings they might be in the ballpark in some obvious cases.

How about the rich list is just a list of rich people that also desire others to know of their riches.

Re: Who died and left the US $7B?

#29
What does being rich even mean? For us it might be the total sum of shares, realestate, cash, minus debts. If you're hiding your wealth then what does it mean to "have" that wealth if no one knows it belongs to you? I guess it comes down to the wealth you can control in your favour, but then how is that different to being in congress?
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