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End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

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#122
Before anyone else does this... make sure people actually use it enough to invest the time and money into it.

I mean for Apple / Android / Windows? app store reviews you often don't get much choice (not until EU laws are fully complied with anyway), as I've found out the hard way over the years developing apps.

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Look, they were kicked off for their content. I hesitate to call their content "viewpoints" but it's become roughly synonymous with speech so I guess it kinda fits. Regardless, I'm happy they did it. I think there is room for "exception that proves the rule" type behavior. When the bridge too far is literal Nazis I'm okay with considering AWS to still be politically neutral. No ToS violation (which was flimsy at best…

I didn't realize that death threats were a viewpoint.[1] > People on Parler used the social network to stoke fear, spread hate, and allegedly coordinate the insurrection at the Capitol building on Wednesday. The app has recently been overrun with death threats, celebrations of violence, and posts encouraging “Patriots” to march on Washington, DC, with weapons on Jan. 19, the day before the inauguration of President-e…

The death threats angle is a complete red herring, considering that other social media absolutely does leave out such posts for even longer than parler did (and very rarely is held accountable for whatever their users are posting, even when it takes literal months to moderate).

But regarding your last paragraph. Sure let's agree that everything you said was right. So what? It still shows that AWS does cut off consumers based on politics. I'm not aware of any legal action against Parler so I don't think they were accused of anything illegal. The fact that you agree with the political reasoning behind the decision does not make it any less political.

Especially since the only time that they ever intervened for something like this was when it happened in the US. It didn't happen during the Arab Spring, or the 2014 Ukrainian revolution, or any other time where people used an AWS hosted platform to coordinate a coup.

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> Sometimes companies have even been destroyed, notably by Amazon, for having the wrong political viewpoints. Ok, I'll ask: what company did Amazon destroy for having the wrong political viewpoint? AWS hosts some pretty vile stuff without blinking. The last time a company made a big "woe is me, my ideas are being suppressed" claim against Amazon, it was Parler, and they weren't kicked off for their viewpoints. They w…

I don’t know about the political stuff that poster is talking about but this is true for quite a few small stores that transitioned to mail order as Amazon really took off. If you couldn’t handle complaints quickly enough or had too many flagged listings (stuff Amazon didn’t want to allow on the platform for one reason or another) you could get kicked off without much recourse except trying to open a new account and…

AWS and the Amazon store are completely different services. People get kicked off the store for stupid reasons every day.

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#125

I'm not familiar with Panic, but the blog post really should explain why the require "full access to users’ files on Drive" and moving to a reduced scope isn't viable.

Transmit is a file transfer client (like FTP). It needs access to your entire drive because you might want to copy something to/from anywhere in your drive.

Re: End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

#126

I'm not familiar with Panic, but the blog post really should explain why the require "full access to users’ files on Drive" and moving to a reduced scope isn't viable.

Transmit is a file transfer app. It includes a file browser for your local and remote filesystems. Full access is literally the entire point of it.

https://www.panic.com/transmit/

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Can you provide specific examples of censorship based on Republican political views? I haven’t experienced that on the platforms you mentioned.

Oh sure, that's easy info to provide for you.

Almost EVERY single conservative that was kicked off Twitter (before Musk bought it) was kicked for perfectly legal, and often perfectly polite, political speech.

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> Sometimes companies have even been destroyed, notably by Amazon, for having the wrong political viewpoints. Ok, I'll ask: what company did Amazon destroy for having the wrong political viewpoint? AWS hosts some pretty vile stuff without blinking. The last time a company made a big "woe is me, my ideas are being suppressed" claim against Amazon, it was Parler, and they weren't kicked off for their viewpoints. They w…

Not too long after Parler was kicked off AWS, I was on a call with hundreds of representatives from power utilities about a modeling tool we were transitioning to. It was mentioned that the tool was hosted on AWS and someone suggested they have a fallback plan in case they got kicked off like "other companies".

Any company that's conservative-oriented in any way is coming under attack.

Re: End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

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AWS’s stated reasons seem pretty sound to me: https://aws.amazon.com/message/65348/

Okay, so what? That you agree with the political motivation behind the decision does not make the decision any less politically motivated, proving that AWS does in fact kick out consumers based on politics.

just because you say it was politically motivated doesn't make it so.
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