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End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

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Re: End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

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Never hitch your wagon to somebody else's horse. Entire companies have been destroyed because they rely on Amazon, Google, or some other service, and then have the rug pulled. Sometimes companies have even been destroyed, notably by Amazon, for having the wrong political viewpoints. My rule of thumb is: Only use open source components, and only run my stuff on Linux. So that way I maintain full control over my stack,…

> Sometimes companies have even been destroyed, notably by Amazon, for having the wrong political viewpoints. Ok, I'll ask: what company did Amazon destroy for having the wrong political viewpoint? AWS hosts some pretty vile stuff without blinking. The last time a company made a big "woe is me, my ideas are being suppressed" claim against Amazon, it was Parler, and they weren't kicked off for their viewpoints. They w…

never forget that Old Cloudflare kept lulzsec's site up /while they were defacing .gov pages/, then gave a talk at DEF CON about how they managed it.

we can have better standards for speech and platforming than "you didn't moderate enough".

Re: End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

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post #26

I wrote this response to another front page HN article on a similar topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41664753 I know everyone loves to dunk on Google, and I definitely agree their communication and customer service to app developers is shite, but this change to permissions scope is a good thing. If you have full, unfettered access to large number of people's Google Drive data, you're a huge target for male…

> which I've done and are quite easy - if anything Did you read the part where it took multiple months to continue because of slow replies and non-working tooling from Google's side? It's also pretty expensive for a relatively niche app, it might be fine if you are Dropbox or a big VC funded Mail app but for smaller companies it's not "easy". > I don't think it's a bad thing that Google is enforcing some minimal secu…

We've done it too, first time it was hard but it's required and recommended.

It raises the bar for low effort hackers and improves security.

I disagree with the op. Sorry mate go through the casa audit and get the access .

Re: End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

#34

I wrote this response to another front page HN article on a similar topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41664753 I know everyone loves to dunk on Google, and I definitely agree their communication and customer service to app developers is shite, but this change to permissions scope is a good thing. If you have full, unfettered access to large number of people's Google Drive data, you're a huge target for male…

I think it's relevant that Transmit is a local native app . There's no hosted app exposed to the internet to hack here. Google made one lengthy process that doesn't fit this use case.

If they are connecting to Google Drive, is that not connected to the internet?

Re: End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

#35
post #18

I think if there is one "value" that stands out from Google's culture (as it is reflected onto its customers) it is tremendous lack of empathy. - Google maps appears to be designed by non-drivers. Much of hte time it is impossible to find out the name of cross streets near one's location by zooming in. Pins get added accidentally and are hard to categorize and find, there is no notion of neighborhoods, and the voice…

It's almost like the incentives at Google are misaligned, who knew.

Re: End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

#36

Never hitch your wagon to somebody else's horse. Entire companies have been destroyed because they rely on Amazon, Google, or some other service, and then have the rug pulled. Sometimes companies have even been destroyed, notably by Amazon, for having the wrong political viewpoints. My rule of thumb is: Only use open source components, and only run my stuff on Linux. So that way I maintain full control over my stack,…

> Sometimes companies have even been destroyed, notably by Amazon, for having the wrong political viewpoints. Ok, I'll ask: what company did Amazon destroy for having the wrong political viewpoint? AWS hosts some pretty vile stuff without blinking. The last time a company made a big "woe is me, my ideas are being suppressed" claim against Amazon, it was Parler, and they weren't kicked off for their viewpoints. They w…

Look, they were kicked off for their content. I hesitate to call their content "viewpoints" but it's become roughly synonymous with speech so I guess it kinda fits. Regardless, I'm happy they did it. I think there is room for "exception that proves the rule" type behavior. When the bridge too far is literal Nazis I'm okay with considering AWS to still be politically neutral. No ToS violation (which was flimsy at best) needed.

Re: End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's relevant that Transmit is a local native app . There's no hosted app exposed to the internet to hack here. Google made one lengthy process that doesn't fit this use case.

If they are connecting to Google Drive, is that not connected to the internet?

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Re: End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's relevant that Transmit is a local native app . There's no hosted app exposed to the internet to hack here. Google made one lengthy process that doesn't fit this use case.

If they are connecting to Google Drive, is that not connected to the internet?

There’s no way for someone on the internet to reach into your Transmit app and make it do something.

Re: End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

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post #33
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> which I've done and are quite easy - if anything Did you read the part where it took multiple months to continue because of slow replies and non-working tooling from Google's side? It's also pretty expensive for a relatively niche app, it might be fine if you are Dropbox or a big VC funded Mail app but for smaller companies it's not "easy". > I don't think it's a bad thing that Google is enforcing some minimal secu…

We've done it too, first time it was hard but it's required and recommended. It raises the bar for low effort hackers and improves security. I disagree with the op. Sorry mate go through the casa audit and get the access .

How much was the external audit they are now requiring? As it's most likely not based on company revenue, it's obvious that it's less of an issue for bigger companies who can afford to pay an auditor for their stamp of approval and task a person with talking to Google over a few months every year.

Re: End of the road for Google Drive in Transmit

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I wrote this response to another front page HN article on a similar topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41664753 I know everyone loves to dunk on Google, and I definitely agree their communication and customer service to app developers is shite, but this change to permissions scope is a good thing. If you have full, unfettered access to large number of people's Google Drive data, you're a huge target for male…

> If you can't afford the new audit requirements ... then I'd really question your ability to appropriately safeguard so much critically private data. Because large companies that can afford it have proven to be exemplars at safeguarding private data?

If you can't afford to buy starbucks every day, I'd really question your ability to buy a private jet. However, that doesn't mean that being able to afford to buy starbucks every day is sufficient to being able to afford to buy a private jet.
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