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Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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I've started thinking more and more about a short throwaway conversation in Anathem about how the internet in their world is absolutely ruined by AI and the only solution they have left is a user driven reputation system for entities and how one of the characters just earned a lot of "reputons" for recording an event. Mostly I think about how something like that is going to be signed into law by some state and it'll…

"Anyone can post information on any topic. The vast majority of what's on the Reticulum is, therefore, crap. It has to be filtered. The filtering systems are ancient. My people have been improving them, and their interfaces, since the time of the Reconstitution."

...

"Asynchronous, symmetrically anonymized, moderated open-cry repute auction. Don't even bother trying to parse that. The acronym is pre-Reconstitution. There hasn't been a true asamocra for 3600 years. Instead we do other things that serve the same purpose and we call them by the old name. In most cases, it takes a few days for a provably irreversible phase transition to occur in the reputon glass - never mind - and another day after that to make sure you aren't just being spoofed by ephemeral stochastic nucleation."

Fantastic book. I read it twice so far, highly recommended. So many little off-handed conceptual gems everywhere.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#113

Almost all of the "product X vs Y" results are AI ramblings now. This growth of the dead Internet is making me want to sign up for Kagi. We're going to need a certification for human generated content at some point.

I'm glad that Kagi (and others) exist as an alternative for people who don't want generative AI in their searches.

Personally, I'm excited about more generative AI being added to my search results, and I'll probably switch to whichever search engine ends up with the best version of it.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Or, consider using Wikimedia Commons, where images are painstakingly categorized, documented, and freely licensed: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Pavo_cristatus_(...

I’ve had a mild amount of success asking some nature photographers if they would be willing to make a few of their photos freely licensed so that they can be used on Wikipedia articles. Wikimedia is a fantastic resource.

Creative Commons offers a portal if you wish to cast a wider net (music, video, 3D models)

It also includes Google Images and Flickr.

https://search.creativecommons.org/

I found the peachicks on Commons by searching "peacock" and then following categories up the tree. If people use the wrong search engine with naïve search terms, I don't know what to tell ya.

This is a parallel example of why reference librarians are still worth consulting, because they will guide you to the library's resources and databases, and demonstrate how to use search queries.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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It seems like the image results for "baby peacock" are returning articles talking about AI-generated photos of baby peacocks due to some recent trend involving an AI-generated baby peacock image.

Have people tried searching for other animals? Maybe this isn't a case of Google being inundated with AI-generated photos, but just something to do with the results for this particular phrase.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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I have a hard time explaining why, perhaps because I did not know what a baby peacock looks like, but this somehow really drove home the "dark side of AI" for me.

I have gotten used to trusting search results somewhat. Sure there would be oddball results and nearly non-sensical ones, but they would be scarce through a sea of relevant images. Now with this, I would be blind to the things I don't know and as someone who grew up it with Google "just being there", it truly scares me.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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I'm at a juncture in my career where I'm asking what could really motivate me to do anything that I really feel is worth doing in tech. In my earlier years I remember using both CompuServe and Prodigy. I'm not sure if it just hindsight colored by nostalgia, but I yern for the feeling I had as a young teenager when I could explore a quirky and curated world of information.

I'm starting to think that all this AI stuff has finally pushed the ads-based Internet past its tipping point.

I feel I could be motivated to work on a walled garden with moderation paid for by subscription fees. What would it be worth to you to have an entirely new online experience free of all the enshittification of the past 15 years?

Personally, I pay for Kagi just to have a small taste of what that could be like. But what if not just the search engine, but also all the sites be funded entirely by a subscription fee paid to the service profider? What if privacy could be a foremost feature of that world? What if advertising and astroturfing were strictly forbidden, and human authors would have to be vetted by other humans to be allowed a place in this world? "This content is Certified ads- and AI-Free(tm)."

I really don't know how well something like that would turn out in 2024, but I feel I wouldn't be alone in wanting to give it a try.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Almost all of the "product X vs Y" results are AI ramblings now. This growth of the dead Internet is making me want to sign up for Kagi. We're going to need a certification for human generated content at some point.

Ironically, ChatGPT and similar LLM chatbots are great for those kinds of searches.

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Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A mesh network on top of IP with an enforcable license agreement that prohibits all commercial use would suffice to get the old net back. Bonus points if no html/css/js is involved but some sane display technology instead.

Without most of what makes the internet useful, sadly.

I'm not sure I like your parent's idea, but it isn't like the regular internet would go away... when you want useful, go there.

I wouldn't mind a modern take on geocities sorta system. Where: (1) You can make a webpage that could be about whatever the bleep you wanted it to be about. (2) Only allowed a reduced subset of web technologies. (3) That was free from any advertising or commerce/sales. (4) Was only available to individuals or businesses no larger than closely-held corporation. (5) had clear limitation on AI uses. (6) Had a complete index, categorized and tagged, of all the sites available.

But if I am being honest, that is just the nostalgia for the old internet talking.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#120
There are a number of ways this might get solved, but I would speculate that it will generally be solved by adding image metadata that is signed by a certificate authority similar to the way SSL certificates are assigned to domains.

I think eventually all digital cameras and image scanners will securely hash and sign images just as forensic cameras do to certify that an image was "captured" instead of generated.

Of course this leaves a grey area for image editing applications such as Photoshop, so there may also need to be some other level of certificate base signing introduced there as well.

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