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Gokapi: Lightweight selfhosted Firefox Send alternative with AWS S3 support

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Re: Gokapi: Lightweight selfhosted Firefox Send alternative with AWS S3 support

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AWS S3 scares the shit out of me. The company I worked for misconfiguration one of the buckets and allowed uploads. A couple of months later there was a bill for $15k. Since apparently some spammers were using our service. Which is OK for a company but I would not want to use it as a private individual.

Not using the budget reporting feature is the bigger issue here IMO and just highlights that the organization was poorly managed.

Re: Gokapi: Lightweight selfhosted Firefox Send alternative with AWS S3 support

#32

AWS S3 scares the shit out of me. The company I worked for misconfiguration one of the buckets and allowed uploads. A couple of months later there was a bill for $15k. Since apparently some spammers were using our service. Which is OK for a company but I would not want to use it as a private individual.

Not using the budget reporting feature is the bigger issue here IMO and just highlights that the organization was poorly managed.

Wow you can figure all of that out from a single sentence?

Re: Gokapi: Lightweight selfhosted Firefox Send alternative with AWS S3 support

#33

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Not using the budget reporting feature is the bigger issue here IMO and just highlights that the organization was poorly managed.

Wow you can figure all of that out from a single sentence?

Yes, because not only was the projected cost not monitored, neither were changes to bucket security. They have entire suites of tools to monitor all of this stuff that is easily accessible.

Re: Gokapi: Lightweight selfhosted Firefox Send alternative with AWS S3 support

#34

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Likely law enforcement found out about it being used to distribute illegal content and then applied pressure. Companies don’t have a strong history of successfully resisting that pressure.

law enforcement is so bass-ackward on privacy/security tools Of course, if a hammer is for sale, some will use it to build houses and a subset will use it to hurt people. Just because something can possibly be bad doesn't mean we shouldn't have it

But if law enforcement’s data suggests to Mozilla that something like 60%+ of Send’s uses are for malicious purposes, what benefit do they have in continuing to make it available?

I’m all for privacy, but I wouldn’t support my tool being used predominantly for criminal activity, no matter how good I feel about it as a security/privacy tool.

Re: Gokapi: Lightweight selfhosted Firefox Send alternative with AWS S3 support

#35

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If this is something you’re interested in it can be reimplemented on CloudFlare workers super easily using the awssdk for s3 (R2) and with D1 as the DB.

Yes, but would be great if someone made it and is open source. Would be cool little side project, no doubt.

I’m down, I think this is an awesome idea.

Re: Gokapi: Lightweight selfhosted Firefox Send alternative with AWS S3 support

#36

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FF Send already had encryption -- IIRC, Mozilla shut it down because it was being abused.

Abused in what way? Content? How would they know, if it was encrypted. Or volume?

Take down requests for DMCA and/or LEO for CSAM. Even though it is impossible for the server operator to know that material is on the server, the URLs + decryption passwords are shared with someone or a group -- if that is discovered by law enforcement or rights holders, they will issue takedowns.

It's not uncommon for forums to share links to resources, along with the password to decrypt them. And FF Send had a nice API for uploading material. It'd be an afternoon coding project to build a tool to re-upload material every 7 days, and update forum posts automatically so it could be available long term, beyond the max expiration time for anonymous uploads.

Re: Gokapi: Lightweight selfhosted Firefox Send alternative with AWS S3 support

#37

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Wow you can figure all of that out from a single sentence?

Yes, because not only was the projected cost not monitored, neither were changes to bucket security. They have entire suites of tools to monitor all of this stuff that is easily accessible.

This was back in 2006/2007 and the very first foray of that company into using cloud computing. Those tools you mentioned largely did not exist. And the UI's where a lot more confusing and less clear than they are now.

Another question: does any mistake in configuration signal a mismanaged company to you?

Re: Gokapi: Lightweight selfhosted Firefox Send alternative with AWS S3 support

#38

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Yes, because not only was the projected cost not monitored, neither were changes to bucket security. They have entire suites of tools to monitor all of this stuff that is easily accessible.

This was back in 2006/2007 and the very first foray of that company into using cloud computing. Those tools you mentioned largely did not exist. And the UI's where a lot more confusing and less clear than they are now. Another question: does any mistake in configuration signal a mismanaged company to you?

When you said "S3 scares the shit out of me", to me that implied that you still to this day didn't know about those features.

And no, mistakes do not necessarily signal a mismanaged company to me, but not knowing what you will be charged from one day to the next certainly smells like a bad policy to me.

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