Eh...I wanted to love it, got first Jolla device (still have it in the drawer) but I simply couldn't made myself use it... Swipe navigation is just annoying and imprecise to use daily :|
Sailfish Mobile OS
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#92I used to own a Jolla phone, and there was something magical about it. At the time, their ideas and execution were a breath of fresh air, and the experience was amazing even despite some unavoidable teething problems. I happily used it as my daily driver for about 2 years, proudly showing it off to friends at every opportunity, and not wanting to switch to another phone.
Now, as such things go, many of the unique ideas dreamt up by Sailfish have been absorbed into the major OSs (which will no doubt claim they innovated them themselves), and Jolla had to close because competing at both the software and the hardware model simultaneously turned out to be unsustainable for them. And my own Jolla phone developed a hardware fault and that was that.
So I reluctantly switched back to Android. But none of the mainstream OSs managed to quite capture that magic, even despite having now copied most of its features. And when I tried the latest version of Sailfish on a Pinephone about a year ago, it too no longer felt like it had that sleekness I had come to love on the Jolla.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, I think you ought to write more than that... Enlighten us!
I think he's talking about how they(?) market it as open alternative to Android but most of the UI and apps were proprietary. Some people also don't like it that they had some deal with the Russian Government.
If BSDobelix had done some basic research, this would have turned up:
"In 2024, to escape Russia's investors due to the Ukrainian war, the Jolla initial company filed for bankruptcy, continuing its activity under the JollyBoys name." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla)
Quite a gutsy move, in my opinion, and as far away from "near scam" as can be.
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#94Did something happen that made Sailfish relevant again? Surprised to see it on the front page today. It's unfortunate that they're taking a closed source model when others like System76 and Librem are using their hardware sales to fund open source development. There's also webOS, which was originally funded by Palm and doesn't seem to have any open source development any longer, and the Maui project which is basicall…
> There's also webOS, which was originally funded by Palm and doesn't seem to have any open source development any longer,
After a short stint at HP, webOS is now owned by LG, they use it as the OS for their Home Entertainment (TVs, projectors,...) and nowadays also as an Automotive OS platform.
Open Source: https://www.webosose.org/
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
The community got fractured when the N9/950 did MeeGo Harmattan. This was a continuation of Nokia's Maemo OS that was based on Debian, but they just called it differently when they announced a collaboration. Nokia and Intel started a 'merge' called MeeGo (based on moblin and fedora). Nokia never actually used this in a device as they signed the famous partnership under Stephen Elop's guidance standing on a burning pl…
My N900 with Maemo was fantastic. It's still working Just Fine, mechanically as good as when new (the Mercedes-door feeling sliding keyboard, for example), the only reason I'm not still using it is because it only supports up to 3G, and that isn't available anymore where I live. Such a nice phone. I could easily make Debian packages and install them, my minicomputer emulator for example. The MeeGo transition stopped…
I have all of the NIT devices, but found the N810 the best; great keyboard, large, thin... but unfortunately no 3G. N900 is second best; great camera and nice User Experience
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep, economics. They used to even have their own phone, but soon moved to repurposing Xperia devices. Not sure if there was a relation between Ericsson and Jolla employees, but this would not amaze me. Note: I have worked a lot on MeeGo and Maemo before this. I only had Sailfish running on my N950s, so can't judge the final devices. Wish I could ...
I'm using an Xperia 10 III w/Sailfish now, but honestly I liked the Jolla phone I had previously much better. Unfortunately the latter eventually developed an electrical glitch which made it useless and I had to replace it. The Xperia is way way too long, and with other physical things I don't like - but that was the only option if I wanted full Android support (as I had with the Jolla phone). And it doesn't handle t…
what broke on the Jolla phone?
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#97I wish it was feasible to have alternative mobile systems, but it's not really. You can't simply give up every popular app for a system nobody else uses or develops for. Sailfish has Android emulation, but good luck running banking apps without Google SafetyNet. Even pure Android ROMs, like LineageOS, can't do that. Also good luck with proprietary firmware for mobile networking and cameras. Another thing that usually…
> I wish it was feasible to have alternative mobile systems, but it's not really.
I think there is a possible exception here.
I mean, firstly, yes, sadly this is largely true.
I had a Blackberry Passport, a beautiful handset running the QNX-based BB X OS. Over a year of ownership it gradually got less and less useful as app vendors turned off BB X support. No FB IM, no Whatsapp, and I have a phone that won't let me text with 90% of the most-contacted people on my phone.
And in those days (2014-2015) I did much less with my phone than now.
But I also own 2 little-used tablets.
I use tablets for watching films and TV, reading books, occasionally email. I don't do any of the mobile-phone stuff on my tablets, and they do not have SIM cards in them.
I would have as much use for a FOSS-powered tablet as I do for an Android or iOS tablet.
Poor patchy phone support does not cut it, sadly, and that's more than doubly so without apps.
But good support for at least one currently-available cheap Chinese tablet would be of legitimate interest to me.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am skeptical too, but the company is Finnish. Anybody know more about them? Edit: looks like a non-free OS indeed. The developer tools just seem to include an SDK. It's a pass for me.
What's the significance of the company being Finnish?
* From the home of the prior market leaders in mobile phones;
* Presumably contains many former engineers from that company;
* From a free democratic EU state, not somewhere untraceable and not governed by Western laws;
* As a European product enjoys more legal privacy protection and security than either American or many Asian vendors.
Those are the ones that spring to mind.
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#99Does it have a Desktop mode like Samsung, tbh I don't even get the point of a Linux phone without a desktop mode. Is this even a proper Linux phone? What distribution is it?
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