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If you love Windows XP, you’ll hate Windows 7

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Re: If you love Windows XP, you’ll hate Windows 7

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Post by creativeembassy »

tdavis wrote: post #8

The title should be "if you fear change, you will hate Windows 7". Holy shit, no Run command (which barely anybody uses) and no default Desktop icons (which are just superfluous next to the start menu)?! WHATEVER WILL I DO!??! It's people like this Jason character, who feel all change is either (a) bad or (b) simply for the sake of change, who completely hinder innovation. If he wants Windows to "not change anything"…

All I use in Windows is the Run command. All I use in Linux is the similar feature. If I can't run a program I need in one line, I add it to the path or create a shortcut in the existing path.

Why in the world would they take this out!? Can someone confirm/deny this?

Re: If you love Windows XP, you’ll hate Windows 7

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Post by maweaver »

creativeembassy wrote: post #41
tdavis wrote: post #8

The title should be "if you fear change, you will hate Windows 7". Holy shit, no Run command (which barely anybody uses) and no default Desktop icons (which are just superfluous next to the start menu)?! WHATEVER WILL I DO!??! It's people like this Jason character, who feel all change is either (a) bad or (b) simply for the sake of change, who completely hinder innovation. If he wants Windows to "not change anything"…

All I use in Windows is the Run command. All I use in Linux is the similar feature. If I can't run a program I need in one line, I add it to the path or create a shortcut in the existing path. Why in the world would they take this out!? Can someone confirm/deny this?

I can confirm that the article has step-by-step instructions for enabling the run command if you really need it, as well as the global key combination to open the dialog.

Re: If you love Windows XP, you’ll hate Windows 7

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Post by Goronmon »

jamesbritt wrote: post #27
quoderat wrote: post #26

The final and insuperable issue that drove me from Windows Vista to Linux a year-and-a-half ago was Windows Explorer doing away with the incredibly-useful "up" button in favor of breadcrumbs. Yes, I understand how breadcrumbs works and I am aware of how to use it. However, what I wish to click on is always changing positions, its length varies, and is sometimes not even there at all. Without an "up" button, I will ne…

"The final and insuperable issue that drove me from Windows Vista to Linux a year-and-a-half ago was Windows Explorer doing away with the incredibly-useful "up" button in favor of breadcrumbs." They seemed to go out of their way to hide or remove useful info. Free disk space on drive? Not an easy thing to see. Consistent, full-detailed file listings? No matter what I do, Vista will eventual decide that (this8 folder…

My version of Vista shows free disk space quite easily. I see it under My Computer.

You can also customize what is shown for file listings.

Re: If you love Windows XP, you’ll hate Windows 7

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Post by Goronmon »

jamesbritt wrote: post #27
quoderat wrote: post #26

The final and insuperable issue that drove me from Windows Vista to Linux a year-and-a-half ago was Windows Explorer doing away with the incredibly-useful "up" button in favor of breadcrumbs. Yes, I understand how breadcrumbs works and I am aware of how to use it. However, what I wish to click on is always changing positions, its length varies, and is sometimes not even there at all. Without an "up" button, I will ne…

"The final and insuperable issue that drove me from Windows Vista to Linux a year-and-a-half ago was Windows Explorer doing away with the incredibly-useful "up" button in favor of breadcrumbs." They seemed to go out of their way to hide or remove useful info. Free disk space on drive? Not an easy thing to see. Consistent, full-detailed file listings? No matter what I do, Vista will eventual decide that (this8 folder…

I'm fairly certain the first is an option you can show and I know for a fact that file listing are customizable under Windows Explorer. Not sure about the second. I don't have Vista in front of me to check.

Re: If you love Windows XP, you’ll hate Windows 7

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Post by petercooper »

tdavis wrote: post #8

The title should be "if you fear change, you will hate Windows 7". Holy shit, no Run command (which barely anybody uses) and no default Desktop icons (which are just superfluous next to the start menu)?! WHATEVER WILL I DO!??! It's people like this Jason character, who feel all change is either (a) bad or (b) simply for the sake of change, who completely hinder innovation. If he wants Windows to "not change anything"…

I remember people complaining similarly when Windows 95 came out. People were happy with Windows 3.1 and many didn't want to learn the new metaphors in 95 (which have stuck right up until XP). People not wanting to leave the 95->XP way of doing things are just as luddite as those who wanted to stick with 3.1.

Re: If you love Windows XP, you’ll hate Windows 7

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Post by robak »

Goronmon wrote: post #35
shiranaihito wrote: post #33

I wonder why Windows 7 is creating so much buzz already, when it could still be years away. Let's just wait and see what Microsoft actually delivers, and hope that the whole world will have moved on to Linux and OS X before that. Don't forget that Microsoft has a proven track record of being rotten to the core.

It's not really years away. It's basically a re-branding of Vista with some tweaks thrown in. Microsoft has even stated they are really pushing to get it out the door since so many people have developed a strange aversion to the word "Vista".

like with communistic propaganda - people are having weird problems not a political system that doesn't work.

Or as Easter Germany chief of communist party said in the 50s - "The Party is really disappointed with the people in this country". If M$ is disappointed with their customers reactions to their flaky products - let M$ got to hell.

Re: If you love Windows XP, you’ll hate Windows 7

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Post by wizlb »

svjunkie wrote: post #20

Windows 7 seems to combine the relative modularity of XP with the ability to quickly access storage and transfer data, as evidenced by this informal benchmark: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3236 I haven't taken a look yet, but it seems promising. Is this going to keep Windows competitive with OS X?

"Is this going to keep Windows competitive with OS X?"

I think you got that backwards. Windows is the one with 90% of the market share. OSuX will be playing catchup for a long, long time.

Re: If you love Windows XP, you’ll hate Windows 7

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Post by shiranaihito »

Goronmon wrote: post #35
shiranaihito wrote: post #33

I wonder why Windows 7 is creating so much buzz already, when it could still be years away. Let's just wait and see what Microsoft actually delivers, and hope that the whole world will have moved on to Linux and OS X before that. Don't forget that Microsoft has a proven track record of being rotten to the core.

It's not really years away. It's basically a re-branding of Vista with some tweaks thrown in. Microsoft has even stated they are really pushing to get it out the door since so many people have developed a strange aversion to the word "Vista".

You're right, I should have realized we won't have to wait for years for it. Microsoft certainly is in a bit of a hurry.

But since it's going to be a re-branding of Vista, why should anyone - especially HN - be excited about it?

It bothers me in general that hackers, 'morally enlightened' people, are excitedly discussing Microsoft, a morally corrupt company, and their offerings.

Remember that thing where Microsoft had bribed countries/companies to vote for OOXML to get it ratified by ISO?

- Maybe a month after that, it was like it never even happened. Hackers were talking about being interviewed by Microsoft, excited about a chance to work there, and so on..

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