It blows me away that "The Jargon File" is not required canon. Well, it can be anachronistic and old-school-nerd-bro coded, but there's some primal stuff in there http://catb.org/jargon/html/
I wonder when it was.
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It blows me away that "The Jargon File" is not required canon. Well, it can be anachronistic and old-school-nerd-bro coded, but there's some primal stuff in there http://catb.org/jargon/html/
I wonder when it was.
For some reason, in Sweden, the word "gazonk" is common after "foo" and "bar". I've never been been able to figure out why. Here's a variant: https://developer.arm.com/documentation/dui0493/i/CHDFAGEE > foo\bar\baz\gazonk\quux\bop Some Erlang reference: https://erlang.org/pipermail/erlang-questions/2009-January/0... > 43> lists:keysearch(foo, 1, [3.14, {foo,bar} | gazonk]). > {value,{foo,bar}} The GNU Emacs manual: h…
> For some reason, in Sweden, the word "gazonk" is common after "foo" and "bar". That doesn't look like it's a potentially Swedish word. It does resemble an English one: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gazongas (For whatever reason, wiktionary insists on defining "gazongas" only as "the plural form of 'gazonga'", but the word "gazonga" cannot be used at all; much as with "scissors" or "pants", only the plural form exi…
There’s a few steps there missing.
But on the other hand, a lot of posters in TFA writes “if you knew you knew”, and maybe most people who spread this didn’t know. I mean, I’ve used it without a second thought plenty of times just because.
It might be as simple as an ex military professor writing it and students picking it up as “this is how we talk” with basically no one knowing what they are talking about.
I understand that these variables have a rich and long history, but if you have ever heard a professor or anybody else say "foo" in lecture you will understand why I detest them. They have absolutely no connection to the matter at hand. Since foo is often used before bar, you would think there is an ordering between the two but there doesn't have to be. They are hard to pronounce and easier to confuse. Whenever I giv…
When I started to learn programming (by myself), I had a really hard time understanding what foo and bar were and what they meant in various tutorials and blogs. I was already trying to learn the syntax and programming concepts, throwing some unknowns words in the mix did NOT help. For some time I thought foo had special meaning in PHP, or that it meant something in English (not my first language, and I was much less…
> Using foo bar baz qux is lazy when you can easily find countless examples.
Countless examples of what?
But where did “baz” come from?
I have always felt that the foo/bar demo/example snippets have held me back in comprehending code, because there was no reasonable logic to it. It just means nothing to me, other than the FUBAR reference others have mentioned. I personally, and professionally, think it’s a horrible convention.
Reading about "FUBAR" makes it even worse.
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> old-school-nerd-bro I'm trying to maintain that the nerds of yore and the bros* who invaded in the 2010s are different groups -- in which case "old-school nerd bro" would be a contradiction in terms -- but alas "bro" has simply come to mean "male", and, to the English majors writing the newspaper articles, "they all look the same". So maybe I need to give up. * etymology: "tech bro", in analogy with "finance bro",…
I've been the same way but I think it's time to give up; the language has moved on, and it's only a very specific age bracket that recognizes the distinction. Graybeard means something different now too. It's okay though. It's not important and doesn't need to be maintained; it was just another form of gate-keeping... the early "nerd-bro" practically required the distinction as a form of identity reclamation in a cul…
It blows me away that "The Jargon File" is not required canon. Well, it can be anachronistic and old-school-nerd-bro coded, but there's some primal stuff in there http://catb.org/jargon/html/
At some point the lines crossed between people whose first exposure was the old "FUBAR" and those whose first exposure was the tech "foo/bar/baz". I wonder when it was.
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> For some reason, in Sweden, the word "gazonk" is common after "foo" and "bar". That doesn't look like it's a potentially Swedish word. It does resemble an English one: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gazongas (For whatever reason, wiktionary insists on defining "gazongas" only as "the plural form of 'gazonga'", but the word "gazonga" cannot be used at all; much as with "scissors" or "pants", only the plural form exi…
I don't agree with the thing about the singular "gazonga". Just like if you were to say a boob or a tit, I think a gazonga would be understood by anyone.
*Where you heard this?
There's no risk of being misunderstood, but that doesn't mean it's possible to phrase a question in English this way.
What would you understand if someone asked you for "the scissor"?
I have always felt that the foo/bar demo/example snippets have held me back in comprehending code, because there was no reasonable logic to it. It just means nothing to me, other than the FUBAR reference others have mentioned. I personally, and professionally, think it’s a horrible convention.