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Re: Start-Up Chile is OK. Nothing more.

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Post by Arelius »

pawelwentpawel wrote: post #36
amix wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had my laptop stolen at the Startup Chile office and the Startup Chile team helped me get it back because of surveillance cameras. I am the only person this has happened to (at least from what I know). I think you can get things stolen in any co-work environment and there is no way Startup Chile can control this (other than doing what they already do). If you are uncomfortable with the security aspect you can get a…

The office spaces don’t have decent lighting and it’s not safe - you can’t leave your stuff on the table even for 5 minutes, a lot of it might get stolen - This sounds kind of crazy to be honest. As I'm front some deep places in eastern europe I wouldn't leave any of my stuff in any places. Especially considering the fact that the work on the laptop is probably more valuable than the machine itself. But this is a sha…

> Especially considering the fact that the work on the laptop is probably more valuable than the machine itself.

I'd hope then that you are using proper backups, it's a lot easier to keep copies of your work remotely, than make a copy of a laptop.

Re: Start-Up Chile is OK. Nothing more.

#62

Post by Scriptor »

Arelius wrote: post #61
pawelwentpawel wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The office spaces don’t have decent lighting and it’s not safe - you can’t leave your stuff on the table even for 5 minutes, a lot of it might get stolen - This sounds kind of crazy to be honest. As I'm front some deep places in eastern europe I wouldn't leave any of my stuff in any places. Especially considering the fact that the work on the laptop is probably more valuable than the machine itself. But this is a sha…

> Especially considering the fact that the work on the laptop is probably more valuable than the machine itself. I'd hope then that you are using proper backups, it's a lot easier to keep copies of your work remotely, than make a copy of a laptop.

There's also the intellectual property facet of this. Someone who steals your work could try and sell it to your competitors. This includes code as well as a list of your clients and your business plans.

Re: Start-Up Chile is OK. Nothing more.

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Post by rblackwater »

Scriptor wrote: post #62
Arelius wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Especially considering the fact that the work on the laptop is probably more valuable than the machine itself. I'd hope then that you are using proper backups, it's a lot easier to keep copies of your work remotely, than make a copy of a laptop.

There's also the intellectual property facet of this. Someone who steals your work could try and sell it to your competitors. This includes code as well as a list of your clients and your business plans.

If you are a developer and you have not encrypted your IP on a laptop you are going to leave by itself, well, your shareholders would probably be pretty disappointed.

Re: Start-Up Chile is OK. Nothing more.

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Post by j_camarena »

stfu wrote: post #7
davidw wrote: post #3

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> Not being safe enough to leave your gear on the desk while you go to lunch or something is a big red flag that something's wrong. You can't have an open and free environment when folks are having to padlock everything they own and don't trust the guy next to them not to walk off with their iPad. That just seems really weird... Is it other people in the program, or do outside people have access, or...? Changing subj…

I hope someone will do an analysis of the whole program 5 years from now to see what the results of it are. How many companies came/stayed/grew/died/etc... Good point. It would be also interesting to know how the perception of Chile has changed in entrepreneurial circles through this program. I think this is really a unique idea and so far it seems as they did at least an acceptable job of running it.

Hey stfu! .. haha.. im part of the program and i think it has changed the point of view of some chileans. By now i have done mentorship for two university students and im sure their life-path has changed.

One of them has already raised $16k (little but enough for a 2-months project).

The other one is still developing the project but at least is working on it :).

None of those guys was taking this seriously until they saw young people being part of Startup Chile program. This is just the people i have been in close contact with and im pretty sure there are lots of cases like this ones.

Re: Start-Up Chile is OK. Nothing more.

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Post by rdl »

The bureaucracy, Spanish, and lack of connections to US investors and entrepreneurs make it a lot less attractive.

I wonder if a US state or AU/NZ would do something similar someday. English would be a big advantage, and if they outsourced the management of the program, they could deal with the bureaucracy, selection, etc. a lot better.

Re: Start-Up Chile is OK. Nothing more.

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Post by heretohelp »

ajarmoniuk wrote: post #56
heretohelp wrote: post #33

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>. I think you can get things stolen in any co-work environment and there is no way Startup Chile can control this (other than doing what they already do). Sorta? My company incubated at StartX and we thought nothing of leaving our stuff on our desks while we left to do other things. The thought of having our things stolen was just unrealistic.

To turn tables round, not having to worry about my stuff left on the desk while working in a shared office is something unthinkable for me, as a Pole. Kinda envious.

The office is in Palo Alto, same building as AOL. Our company probably had some of the poorest people in a 2 sq mile radius. Yuppie-ville :P

Re: Start-Up Chile is OK. Nothing more.

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Post by PakG1 »

heretohelp wrote: post #66
ajarmoniuk wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To turn tables round, not having to worry about my stuff left on the desk while working in a shared office is something unthinkable for me, as a Pole. Kinda envious.

The office is in Palo Alto, same building as AOL. Our company probably had some of the poorest people in a 2 sq mile radius. Yuppie-ville :P

Same building as AOL? What's the accessibility, curious? If there's card swiping security, it's not apples and apples.

Re: Start-Up Chile is OK. Nothing more.

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Post by xtracto »

IanOzsvald wrote: post #28
DanielBMarkham wrote: post #2

I like the idea of Startup Chile. After reading this article, I still like most of it, except for trust issues. I'm not in favor of video surveillance, but if I ran Startup Chile, I'd be adding some cameras all over the place. Maybe go to a badge system for building access and egress. Not being safe enough to leave your gear on the desk while you go to lunch or something is a big red flag that something's wrong. You…

To clarify the theft issue (I'm Round 2, almost finished here now). At the start the co-working CMI office was safe, we guess that no 'regular folk' knew about it. Now it is better known and there's no access control (there are security guys on the doors, but they're not really checking us). Several times in the last few months different strangers have walked in, spotted a lone laptop and walked off with it. The same…

They should implement Bait-Notebooks (like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_car) with GPS, camera and recording everything.

Then just leave them there in accessible places and catch the thieves.

Re: Start-Up Chile is OK. Nothing more.

#69

Post by IanOzsvald »

IanOzsvald wrote: post #57

I spent today (Thursday) talking with the Executive Director (Horacio) and a few of the senior staff members. I presented this morning on Lean Startup processes for the newly-arrived. I'm in Round 2, I've been giving feedback for months to the staff. The feedback I got today about changes they're making during Round 4 (for those just arriving now) is pretty impressive. If they carry it all off then the programme will…

Horacio (exec director) today announced the changes that I'd hinted at yesterday (I didn't know this was happening when I posted yesterday).

Changes being rolled in: * Mentorship - try to provide mentors for all * Traction Groups - get companies to start and join private self-mentorship groups (based around the prototype I organised in this round: http://ianozsvald.com/2012/05/16/mentorship-groups-in-startu... ) * Roadshow in Silicon Valley - after Demo Days take companies up to the Bay Area and run an investment/demo road show * Academy - online & face to face courses for StartupChile members to learn about business basics (e.g. lean processes, pitching, sales etc) * Top 20 Accelerator - cherry pick a top set of companies and super-accelerate them (private mentorship, focus on growth etc)

I don't know the details of the above changes, the ideas will evolve and a lot of questions are raised. What interests me is how a lot of the current programme criticisms (e.g. lack of mentorship, DemoDay not being too cool, lack of peer mentorship) should be addressed (and then some).

As stated yesterday I'm not employed by StartupChile, I'm nearly finished with Round 2. As much as I've criticised the programme in the past I continue to be impressed at how quickly they're iterating and improving.

Re: Start-Up Chile is OK. Nothing more.

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Post by IanOzsvald »

davidw wrote: post #3
DanielBMarkham wrote: post #2

I like the idea of Startup Chile. After reading this article, I still like most of it, except for trust issues. I'm not in favor of video surveillance, but if I ran Startup Chile, I'd be adding some cameras all over the place. Maybe go to a badge system for building access and egress. Not being safe enough to leave your gear on the desk while you go to lunch or something is a big red flag that something's wrong. You…

> Not being safe enough to leave your gear on the desk while you go to lunch or something is a big red flag that something's wrong. You can't have an open and free environment when folks are having to padlock everything they own and don't trust the guy next to them not to walk off with their iPad. That just seems really weird... Is it other people in the program, or do outside people have access, or...? Changing subj…

Quick update today (Friday 29th) - I just spotted freestanding 'check in' finger print readers in the CMI coworking building.

My guess is that registered folk get to walk through and everyone else has to explain their presence. It should be a good deterrent. Photo: https://twitter.com/ianozsvald/status/218833445760139264

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