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Re: Whoa: It's 2012, and the World's Most Popular Email Service Is ... Hotmail

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Post by Monotoko » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 6:47 AM UTC

p0ckets wrote: post #36

Monotoko wrote: post #9

A lot of 90's kids who came online in the early 2000's (me being one of them) used MSN for instant messenger, and I still do to this day. I use Gmail for email, the only thing my hotmail is used for is to sign into MSN.

You can sign up for MSN messenger with any email address.

Aye I know, but back then there weren't that many other providers. I wasn't too interested in who my provider was and I was too young to remember the yahoo days, it was my first email account and I used it solely for MSN (and a game I loved) for years. I wonder how many of us there are inflating those numbers?

Re: Whoa: It's 2012, and the World's Most Popular Email Service Is ... Hotmail

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Post by dr42 » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 5:15 PM UTC

mattgreenrocks wrote: post #40

dr42 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may be disgusting to you, and you may not understand what I meant, but I'm afraid, my friend, that doesn't change the fact that there are correlations between the choices you make and your socioeconomic profile. It's the whole basis of collaborative filtering. You like movie A, B and C and will likely like movie Z. You buy a Mac and are likely to book more upscale hotels, you keep an old yahoo or hotmail account a…

> Yes it's an email account, but they come in different flavors and some flavors are associated with the early adopter (cool kids) crowd (@gmail.com), and some are associated with their parents (@hotmail.com) Unfortunately, the "cool kids" part gives you away. Like so many things in life, you win by opting not to play the [horribly broken] game. Being secure in your identity means you don't have to partake in idiotic…

"Unfortunately, the "cool kids" part gives you away."

I am unsure of your intention here, but I think you are just not getting this at all. If you are assuming I am a cool kid then you are mistaken. I am a 42 year old software architect at a fortune 500 company.

I think you have this all backwards. Early adopters picked gmail (as did all their friends) not to signal, but because it was better, faster, more secure. Those that didn't and stuck with yahoo and hotmail (and who continue to have their accounts hacked) are perceived by others (no matter how secure they might be in themselves) as not keeping up.

Maybe an example will help, let's say you put your myspace account in your profile. You can be the most secure person on the planet, but people will look at your profile and a draw a conclusion.

"The path to discover one's true self is a lifelong journey, and I bid you good luck on it."

Haha - I think it's a bit of stretch to go from email host provider to some zen moment, but I guess you didn't really have any point to make, so resorting to condescension was the next best thing. :)

Now, let me get back to my Well account...

Re: Whoa: It's 2012, and the World's Most Popular Email Service Is ... Hotmail

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Post by rodolphoarruda » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 6:11 PM UTC

degenerate wrote: post #19

rodolphoarruda wrote: post #10

We recently ran a pilot with some students from our 13 thousand student base. Our reports show: 69% Hotmail; 13% Yahoo!; 10% Gmail.

I'm glad I don't live where you do. Seriously. I would hate to be surrounded by that many people who don't know how to look past their nose.

They sign-up to Hotmail because it is the easiest way for them to use MS Live Messenger which is where all their friends are connected most of the time. Gmail/Yahoo/XYZ is pointless for them because none of their friends are connected to those service's respective IMs.

Re: Whoa: It's 2012, and the World's Most Popular Email Service Is ... Hotmail

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Post by checoivan » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 6:27 PM UTC

pooriaazimi wrote: post #27

checoivan wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't login, it's not counted. If you don't log in for over a year then the account would be deleted.

But if you forward it to say Gmail, then you count as a user (Gmail pings Hotmail for you).

Establishing a connection and doing the full successful authentication through a client, pop, or web counts as a login.

Incoming mail or a simple ping to the mail server won't counted as a user view. With all the spam, fake mails, and mail bomb pings, views would then report bajillions of hits and nothing would expire.

Re: Whoa: It's 2012, and the World's Most Popular Email Service Is ... Hotmail

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Post by mattgreenrocks » Fri, Jun 29, 2012, 3:47 AM UTC

dr42 wrote: post #42

mattgreenrocks wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes it's an email account, but they come in different flavors and some flavors are associated with the early adopter (cool kids) crowd (@gmail.com), and some are associated with their parents (@hotmail.com) Unfortunately, the "cool kids" part gives you away. Like so many things in life, you win by opting not to play the [horribly broken] game. Being secure in your identity means you don't have to partake in idiotic…

"Unfortunately, the "cool kids" part gives you away." I am unsure of your intention here, but I think you are just not getting this at all. If you are assuming I am a cool kid then you are mistaken. I am a 42 year old software architect at a fortune 500 company. I think you have this all backwards. Early adopters picked gmail (as did all their friends) not to signal, but because it was better, faster, more secure. Th…

Ah sorry, didn't mean to be condescending. My beef (obviously) is with the downward perception of "not keeping up." I see it as unnecessarily judgmental, and I dislike people sticking up for it.