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How to Renovate Your Home for a Billion Children

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Re: How to Renovate Your Home for a Billion Children

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Tiktok is the worst of the brain-rotting social media products our world has produced, and that's saying a lot.

I spent many years in the early days of social media building: starting at StumbleUpon, working on early Facebook apps, building companies in the space. It always felt that social media was an unstoppable train, but it seems like the benefits of connecting everyone together outweighed the negatives: the constant address book spamming, content designed to be viral rather than informative, etc.

I suppose that's it's really just the distilled, pure dopamine lever part of all the early stuff we built with everything else stripped out. It was always inevitable that the culture of optimization would strip out the humanity, I suppose.

EDIT: The replies to this comment really have an "I'm not addicted, you just don't understand it" vibe.

Re: How to Renovate Your Home for a Billion Children

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"If you’ve been on TikTok at any point in the past six months, chances are you’ve stumbled across them, as I first did during a fairly routine doomscroll one night this summer." I think this shows the TikTok algorithm makes things look more ubiquitous then they really are, I've never seen anything like this, and half the time when I mention what seems to me to be a big meme like demure and mindful to someone else i k…

Absolutely, that's why I believe politics are the way they are right now, people see content that's more and more extreme of their preferred side and they believe that's the complete representation of the situation, the truth. This makes it hard to take someone else on the opposite side seriously, let alone have a conversation.

I think the big problem is that people use social media and other highly biased sources for important information (political, health, etc). In theory, school reports and experiments requiring citations are supposed to demonstrate the way to scrutinize and select sources of information. It seems that's mostly lost though.

Re: How to Renovate Your Home for a Billion Children

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Absolutely, that's why I believe politics are the way they are right now, people see content that's more and more extreme of their preferred side and they believe that's the complete representation of the situation, the truth. This makes it hard to take someone else on the opposite side seriously, let alone have a conversation.

In a lot of cases -- at least in every case I care about -- the opposite side is so different that it is indeed hard to have conversation with them. I don't think this is the result of an algorithm, I think the algorithm just reflects reality. For example, I believe people should be able to use a doctor to get healthcare, and they believe the government should prevent that. There's no middle ground there, it's a bool…

Is this meant to be ironic? The example given is a great example of the sort of extremist strawmanning meant to warp people's views to promote a boolean mindset on the issue.

Re: How to Renovate Your Home for a Billion Children

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In a lot of cases -- at least in every case I care about -- the opposite side is so different that it is indeed hard to have conversation with them. I don't think this is the result of an algorithm, I think the algorithm just reflects reality. For example, I believe people should be able to use a doctor to get healthcare, and they believe the government should prevent that. There's no middle ground there, it's a bool…

Is this meant to be ironic? The example given is a great example of the sort of extremist strawmanning meant to warp people's views to promote a boolean mindset on the issue.

No, not ironic. One side says the government should be involved in the decision (and may tell you that you can't get care). The other says it's up to you. There's no third option.

Re: How to Renovate Your Home for a Billion Children

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"If you’ve been on TikTok at any point in the past six months, chances are you’ve stumbled across them, as I first did during a fairly routine doomscroll one night this summer." I think this shows the TikTok algorithm makes things look more ubiquitous then they really are, I've never seen anything like this, and half the time when I mention what seems to me to be a big meme like demure and mindful to someone else i k…

Absolutely, that's why I believe politics are the way they are right now, people see content that's more and more extreme of their preferred side and they believe that's the complete representation of the situation, the truth. This makes it hard to take someone else on the opposite side seriously, let alone have a conversation.

The argument that social media is responsible for political polarization is reductive and ahistorical.

It ignores the thousands of years of division that we've had along ethnic and religious lines.

What we have now is simply the peak of a longstanding trend that's older than the United States: it's white supremacy. That's all it is. Anti-immigrant hysteria? White nativism and white chauvinism.

These things are manifesting now because of deteriorating material conditions and longstanding beliefs, not because of social media (eg [1]).

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Jew

Re: How to Renovate Your Home for a Billion Children

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Is this meant to be ironic? The example given is a great example of the sort of extremist strawmanning meant to warp people's views to promote a boolean mindset on the issue.

No, not ironic. One side says the government should be involved in the decision (and may tell you that you can't get care). The other says it's up to you. There's no third option.

I know of no proposals that don't involve the government regulation of care. The government can mandate treatment just as they can ban treatments in any of the systems. There are a variety of proposed systems that display these properties to varying degrees.

Re: How to Renovate Your Home for a Billion Children

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely, that's why I believe politics are the way they are right now, people see content that's more and more extreme of their preferred side and they believe that's the complete representation of the situation, the truth. This makes it hard to take someone else on the opposite side seriously, let alone have a conversation.

The argument that social media is responsible for political polarization is reductive and ahistorical. It ignores the thousands of years of division that we've had along ethnic and religious lines. What we have now is simply the peak of a longstanding trend that's older than the United States: it's white supremacy. That's all it is. Anti-immigrant hysteria? White nativism and white chauvinism. These things are manife…

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