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12 Months of Mandarin

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Re: 12 Months of Mandarin

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> DS/algos How do you study that on Anki?

I started with these decks: https://github.com/teivah/algodeck https://github.com/teivah/designdeck Essentially I'd have a question like "invert a binary tree", "implement union-find", or "structure of a topological sort". All of these are small enough that I can keep them in my head. For small algorithms I would just regurgitate the code line-for-line in my head. For more complex ones I would just go over the struct…

That blog post is unbelievable. It looks very/eerily similar to men dating online in the 2020s.

Re: 12 Months of Mandarin

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I don't care about learning Mandarin, I want to find out how this guy's motivation system works and then download it into my brain. Doing a PhD and learning Mandarin as a side project ?! Doing hours of Anki practice and new note taking, some of it while running on a treadmill? There's just a crazy amount of drive (and what sounds like an epic memory) here. I don't think people consider base motivation enough when thi…

I think an increasingly big difference isn't so much drive as it is sort of the inverse, lack of distraction. A lot of people's attention is just permanently dispersed. What's very effective is just cut all low quality or non necessary media or apps out of your life or limit them to say 15 minutes a day. Then when you have inevitably nothing to do you can either throw in 10 minutes of doing anki flash cards or doing…

Absolutely - I'm vouching for this comment.

Re: 12 Months of Mandarin

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I have ChatGPT create 20 sentences for a new word I want to learn, works super well with Anki. Front -> Word. Click button, shows random sentence out of 20. Back -> Word and sentence translation.

The trouble with ChatGPT is that it can produce wonky sentences sometimes, and as a learner it can be hard to validate that. Most of the time it’s great though, just need to be cautious and ideally find a way to validate the content it generates (in my case I can run it by my wife). I use ChatGPT to check my answers to the exercises in my textbooks :)

I had ChatGPT fail on basic Spanish sentences, to the point where I with week of Spanish could tell it's wrong (as it, basic grammar was mangled).

I can't recommend it for language learning at all, I'm afraid. :(

Re: 12 Months of Mandarin

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The importance of an SRS system like Anki cannot be overstated. However I can see how this might be a burden to some when it comes to entering in your own sentences. For this, I highly recommend making use of your OS's dictation (speech to text) feature. You get to practice speaking _and_ enter sentences much quicker.

The importance of SRS is often overstated. To my knowledge, there isn’t a single study showing SRS as effective for language learning where it was an experimental variable. There’s anecdotal evidence thrown about, which gives us some indication that it’s helpful. But I have doubts that it’s a good return on investment. To avoid diving deep into long arguments about this or that, I’ll keep my advice short: If you use…

These criticisms are all of text-only flashcards, not of spaced repetition itself. It is a common mistake to conflate the two, but it's perfectly easy to have videos, images, and audio on your flashcards in Anki.

Spaced repetition is a fundamental learning method that is attuned to how the brain works. It's not really tied to a specific method like flashcards. Rather, flashcards are merely the most logical and easy implementation of spaced repetition.

Re: 12 Months of Mandarin

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The importance of an SRS system like Anki cannot be overstated. However I can see how this might be a burden to some when it comes to entering in your own sentences. For this, I highly recommend making use of your OS's dictation (speech to text) feature. You get to practice speaking _and_ enter sentences much quicker.

> The importance of an SRS system like Anki cannot be overstated. I'm not sure if I agree with that, as no native speakers need to have an SRS to learn their native languages. No doubt that SRS will allow us to remember words, yet few can really acquire those words intuitively. When starting to learn English in school, we used some kind of SRS system to memorize words and phrases and sentences, and man, the result wa…

Native speakers certainly use spaced repetition, as they hear the same sounds over and over again until they learn them. All an SRS is, is a piece of software that optimizes this process.

Re: 12 Months of Mandarin

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Do not underestimate the urge to procrastinate (by still doing productive things, like learning Mandarin) while pursuing a PhD. I am not sure if this will be the author's experience too, but pursuing a PhD will often leave you exhausted without any hope of ever finding "the final missing ingredient" to solve the problem you are currently tackling. So turning to entirely unrelated problems, however productive they may…

I wrote my own dynamic keyboard layout to optimize typing speed while procrastinating on my dissertation. 15 years later I'm still using it. My dissertation not so much. Procrastination is (sometimes) awesome.

Structured procrastination is highly underrated.

Re: 12 Months of Mandarin

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Interesting. I had the impression that Chinese will likely become very useful during our lifetimes... With the momentum their economy has, I expect knowledge of both English and Chinese to become a very sought out skill

There was a soviet era joke: optimists practise their english, pessimists practise their chinese, and realists practise stripping their Kalashnikovs. Four decades later: I guess some fraction of the optimists have emigrated; the pessimists might be finding their language skills freshly in demand; and the realists teach their grandchildren: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE3UUbBKDS8

> There was a soviet era joke: optimists practise their english, pessimists practise their chinese, and realists practise stripping their Kalashnikovs.

Hah, that joke is more widespread than I realised. The Czech version is that optimists learn English, pessimists learn Russian, and realists learn marksmanship.

Re: 12 Months of Mandarin

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The stated goal of comfortably reading 三體 (3 body problem) is a tough one. The first chapter is full of Cultural Revolution era vocabulary and later parts of the book contain a lot of science / philosophy jargon. If he can read that book comfortably, without researching and speed-running its exact vocabulary, then I'd say he's definitely an advanced learner.

Re: 12 Months of Mandarin

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post #152

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Do not underestimate the urge to procrastinate (by still doing productive things, like learning Mandarin) while pursuing a PhD. I am not sure if this will be the author's experience too, but pursuing a PhD will often leave you exhausted without any hope of ever finding "the final missing ingredient" to solve the problem you are currently tackling. So turning to entirely unrelated problems, however productive they may…

I wrote my own dynamic keyboard layout to optimize typing speed while procrastinating on my dissertation. 15 years later I'm still using it. My dissertation not so much. Procrastination is (sometimes) awesome.

Sounds like custom hot-keys in a video game

Re: 12 Months of Mandarin

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There are very few Chinese speaking English, actually. Go there and you’ll see.

There's lots of you include the diaspora. Way more so than non-native mandarin speakers.

But the idea of chinese becoming useful in our lifetimes has more to do with chinese speakers in PRC and not in the diaspora.
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