Linux from Scratch

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Post by udev4096 » Sat, Oct 05, 2024, 5:43 AM UTC

Re: Linux from Scratch

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Post by lrvick » Sat, Oct 05, 2024, 9:41 AM UTC

For those that want to see full source bootstrapped, deterministic, and container native LFS check out https://codeberg.org/stagex

Re: Linux from Scratch

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Post by sieste » Sat, Oct 05, 2024, 10:13 AM UTC

I really like the idea, really tried following the process several times. But each time it just turned into a copy-incomprehensible-commands-into-the-terminal exercise at some point, and I lost motivation. Did anyone experience the same?

Re: Linux from Scratch

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Post by keyle » Sat, Oct 05, 2024, 10:15 AM UTC

sieste wrote: post #3

I really like the idea, really tried following the process several times. But each time it just turned into a copy-incomprehensible-commands-into-the-terminal exercise at some point, and I lost motivation. Did anyone experience the same?

Yep, basically. At some point you realise you could do it, but do you really want to go through it all... It's a slog.

It is a fun experience though!

Re: Linux from Scratch

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Post by devilkin » Sat, Oct 05, 2024, 10:20 AM UTC

I did this, once, on a 386. Did I learn things? Definitely. Will I ever do it again? Definitely not ;)

Re: Linux from Scratch

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Post by harha_ » Sat, Oct 05, 2024, 10:21 AM UTC

What's the fun in this? I once looked into it briefly and it's what I guessed: mostly about building and installing the required software individually. That's boring, I guess the fun would be in building an actual usable distro "from scratch".

Re: Linux from Scratch

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Post by Manfred » Sat, Oct 05, 2024, 10:24 AM UTC

You could argue that running through the woods doesn't teach you about trees, but it's really effective when you bring a book along.

Linux From Scratch is a fun way to explore what parts make up a Linux distribution. I did this a few time long ago before switching to Gentoo and it really helped with appreciating the freedom to pick and choose details of your operating system without actually writing it from scratch.

Re: Linux from Scratch

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Post by exe34 » Sat, Oct 05, 2024, 10:29 AM UTC

harha_ wrote: post #6

What's the fun in this? I once looked into it briefly and it's what I guessed: mostly about building and installing the required software individually. That's boring, I guess the fun would be in building an actual usable distro "from scratch".

> building an actual usable distro "from scratch".

could you say a few words on how this would avoid building and installing the required software individually? are you thinking of osdev instead?

Re: Linux from Scratch

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Post by exe34 » Sat, Oct 05, 2024, 10:31 AM UTC

sieste wrote: post #3

I really like the idea, really tried following the process several times. But each time it just turned into a copy-incomprehensible-commands-into-the-terminal exercise at some point, and I lost motivation. Did anyone experience the same?

it's better if you try to work out what the commands and options are doing. I did this a long time ago, and 15 years later, I realise that it gave me a big advantage over my colleagues who haven't done something like that. "missing xxxxx.so" - they don't even know what that means, whereas I'm already trying to find the so and putting it in ld_library_path to see if it helps.

Re: Linux from Scratch

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Post by sirsinsalot » Sat, Oct 05, 2024, 10:31 AM UTC

Ah yes, I remember the year I lost to this and the pain of cross compilation. Reader beware.