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The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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A word of warning as a Brit in Australia. You'll get funny looks when talking about routers and root!

(Note that my HN name is the same as my real name, without the space). On my first (and only) visit to Australia I got stopped at passport control. The security bloke took my passport and looked at it. Then kept looking at it, in silence. His face was straight and sour, but his shoulders were ... twitching. This went on for more than a couple of minutes until, finally, he looked up from the passport, stared into my e…

> the Wombat Joke

The search engines tell me that there are lots of wombat jokes, but don't seem to know any that stand out enough to deserve a "the" in front.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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The article didn't mention what is by far my favorite British lingo: "faffing about". It's just so damn useful! I know that there are other phrases which work, but for whatever reason none of them really hit for me like "faffing about" does.

It's nice lingo, but is it commonly used in the US now? I've never heard it in the US except from Brits.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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How curious! (I feel that I've observed the Britishization of the word "curious" in my lifetime. As a child, it meant only interested, intrigued. Now it also means strange or bizarre.)

Could it be due to "The curious case of Benjamin Button"?

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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post #27

Having grown up in the US with what I would consider a higher than average exposure to the early 2000s internet, at least compared to other peers my age, much of my ability to read and write actually came directly from social media, instant messengers and online games rather than books. This meant I often found myself struggling with spelling errors in English class which sadly resulted in deducted points from my ess…

Don't blame Webster. For a lot of the well-known differences, he actually preserved the original.

In particular, the British added the "u" when French was in fashion, and likewise for "-ise" (in fact, "-ize" dates all the way back to Ancient Greek!)

One thing that Americans do get wrong is misspelling "-lyse" which comes from a different Greek root, so should not follow the same pattern as "-ize". But even then, Webster didn't invent the error.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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post #77

Brit living in the US here. Despite being here 7 years now i'll every so often have an American point out how odd something I say is. Recently it was me saying "I'll need to head home and get my swimming costume before heading to the pool". To which the response was "wow wow wow, "swimming costume"? Really? A costume. Not a uniform but a costume; something you wear for halloween? OMG that's adorable" Turns out Americ…

Turns out they actually say swim suit ;)

A swim suite sounds even more fancy than a costume

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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As an American, I still get hung up when hearing about a government "scheme" [0] in Britain without any negative connotation whatsoever. [0] https://www.cjr.org/language_corner/scheme.php

It’s so good hearing about a “bike to work scheme” and trying to imagine what the evil part is.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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post #27

Having grown up in the US with what I would consider a higher than average exposure to the early 2000s internet, at least compared to other peers my age, much of my ability to read and write actually came directly from social media, instant messengers and online games rather than books. This meant I often found myself struggling with spelling errors in English class which sadly resulted in deducted points from my ess…

I can never remember if I should use grey or gray

The first vowel tells you from which country it comes.

Grey is UK English, so think "e" for England. Gray is American English, so think "a" for America.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A better example for why regionality matters: what does "pants" refer to?

Rubbish / nonsense / drivel / twaddle / claptrap etc. Virtually unknown outside the UK.

twaddle is word I haven't heard for a long time (I moved from the UK to Australia 27 years ago). It's a great word!

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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I once was talking wit some british people whilst in california and said "oh you can throw that garbage in the trash". They laughed and said it sounded really coarse, what did you do with it after? "It goes into a truck which takes it to the dump. Why, what do you say?" "We say you put your rubbish in the bin and the lorry takes it to the tip" which did sound more pleasant.

I'm fairly certain "dump" is the more commonly used word in the UK. There's the classic children's novel "Stig of the Dump" published in 1963. There's definitely cases where UK English has adopted a new word but American English hasn't. I was surprised to see the word "coupon" used in old UK literature. "Voucher" is the more common word nowadays. People would accuse you of being Americanised if you said coupon.

I love Stig of the Dump. I read it at school and whilst I have very memories of my childhood I do remember reading it. I can quite imagine living in a dump/tip with old jam jars as my window!

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Unfortunately my teachers were a little unreasonable about this and would still deduct points when I pointed this out... I can see the teacher's perspective here. I don't think it's unreasonable for teachers to mark this down, though I don't think your request to get back the points was unreasonable either. Communicating effectively with your particular audience (the local American audience one in this case) is arg…

If you live in the US, I agree that you must use American English. But even us people that live outside of the US/UK/related countries often got errors marked, because we used the wrong regional variant... In Europe, British English is used as a reference point, but I had a similar problem as GP.

when i was an exchange student i was told that some students would have problems coming back because their english teachers would not accept the american english they would learn during the exchange year and that might reflect on their grades. fortunately i had an understanding teacher who didn't do that, but who was happy to see my english dramatically improved.
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