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JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.

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Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.

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Post by aaronblohowiak »

51Cards wrote: post #29

I don't know if I can get behind this or not. I understand their desire but I don't see this as a viable option just yet. I'm not so concerned with 2.0 and 1.9 as you can load the right one, but what about when 2.1 comes out? Are they going to back-port all the new features to 1.9.1? If not then I now have a big fragmentation issue if I rely on anything specific to 2.1. Don't forget that IE 8 is the last version XP w…

>JQuery has just set a time limit on proper web access for an entire OS.

doesnt chrome work on xp?

Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.

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Post by estel »

chris_wot wrote: post #37
elithrar wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fuck IE - they've done the same to us for years. You're not "fucking IE" though, you're fucking the end-users; many of whom might be stuck on XP (and therefore IE8) without a huge choice. Corporate users, education users, those without the money to upgrade their OS/machine, etc.

What is stopping those users from using Firefox?

Corporate; awareness; familiarity

Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.

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Post by minikomi »

elithrar wrote: post #33
mythz wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fuck IE - they've done the same to us for years.

> Fuck IE - they've done the same to us for years. You're not "fucking IE" though, you're fucking the end-users; many of whom might be stuck on XP (and therefore IE8) without a huge choice. Corporate users, education users, those without the money to upgrade their OS/machine, etc.

Hi, from work, on Chrome, on XP.

Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.

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Post by nfriedly »

I'm seeing a lot of hate here, but I think this is a good decision. I know what a pain it is to support older versions of IE because I was doing it before jQuery came onto the scene. They took a lot of that pain from us and hoisted it onto themselves, but we can't expect them to carry that burden forever.

My company dropped IE 7 support months ago, I look forward to the day we can drop IE 8. We'll probably be suck with jQuery 1.9 for a while, but my side projects will start using 2.0 right away.

Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.

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Post by davidlumley »

wycats wrote: post #17
sampl wrote: post #14

Zepto is already a popular option for those who want jQuery features in a lightweight library. The API is essentially identical to jQuery, making it a drop-in replacement at a fraction of the size. zeptojs.com

Zepto is not drop in. Not even close.

Could you expand on that at all? I realise that Zepto covers a (very) small subset of jQuery functions, but I thought that in a lot of use cases it would be an appropriate substitute?

Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.

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Post by melling »

51Cards wrote: post #29

I don't know if I can get behind this or not. I understand their desire but I don't see this as a viable option just yet. I'm not so concerned with 2.0 and 1.9 as you can load the right one, but what about when 2.1 comes out? Are they going to back-port all the new features to 1.9.1? If not then I now have a big fragmentation issue if I rely on anything specific to 2.1. Don't forget that IE 8 is the last version XP w…

People will switch from IE when they have to. Firefox, Chrome, and Opera all run well on XP. As for corporate America, they'll wait it out as long as they can too.

However, if forced, technology departments are quite capable of installing Chrome or Firefox. I don't feel sorry for corporations who have IE[6-8] only apps. I was there 10 years ago when people said that it only had to run in IE, when I said we should test in Firefox too.

Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.

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Post by tianshuo »

mkmcdonald wrote: post #24

I'll play the cynic here and try to diagnose why this is even being considered. jQuery is a very invasive API. Its goal is to steal all the work from the developer, and to "guarantee" what it deems to be "correct" input for a certain subset of browsers. This approach may ostensibly work, but inevitably falls apart, which leads to thousands of "bugs" being reported. Because the API has grown to be so massive, goalpost…

jQuery is throwing its burden --- on developers and users. But since it is on 1/3 of websites, maybe it does have the power to influence a change.

Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.

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Post by secoif »

elithrar wrote: post #33
mythz wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fuck IE - they've done the same to us for years.

> Fuck IE - they've done the same to us for years. You're not "fucking IE" though, you're fucking the end-users; many of whom might be stuck on XP (and therefore IE8) without a huge choice. Corporate users, education users, those without the money to upgrade their OS/machine, etc.

The reason IE is still clinging on is because not enough people are making noise about it.

The less usable the net is for older browsers, the closer we move the users of those browsers to the threshold of upgrading.

It may mean more complaints from the staff to the IT department, it may mean grandma asking her grandkids why the google is broken, but if enough people are vocal about it, it will encourage upgrading.

Every time you support IE, you are slowing the uptake of newer browsers, and you are a bad person for it.

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