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Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by koe123 »

bko wrote: post #691
famahar wrote: post #672

I've kinda given up on the internet at this point. It's sad but comforting. My social networks are just my friends and I've started to get back into reading books and long form blogs. Don't want to be exposed to this endless slop. Every day it gets harder to find something that was so easy before. It's all being buried by endless content. I'm hoping some non AI generative content branch of the internet will be create…

It's just a technology. Much like you can still buy "hand made" shoes, there will be people that create curated hand made content. And if they use AI and you can't tell the difference, does it really matter? I really don't understand why there is so much negativity for a new technology. It's never explained, just taken as a fact and people bemoaning the new state of the world.

I feel as though people are concerned over a hypothetical.

Can anyone show me AI generated content that has fully replaced the alternative?

If this does exist, what exactly is the value that was lost if the “real” thing was so easily replaced?

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Post by bamboozled »

woggy wrote: post #731

It's already bad, but the amount of garbage that is going to flood YouTube now is going to make it unusable.

I’m already sick of all the bullshit thumbnails to be honest. It’s at the point where I feel like giving up my premium subscription.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by makeitdouble »

beezlebroxxxxxx wrote: post #714
makeitdouble wrote: post #702

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> reading books The harder part to me: "books" aren't great in average. There's an ocean of garbage books basically mass produced by ghost writers, solely targeted at milking a socially hot topic or grifting. There's an obesity epidemic ? Let's make 3000 new books repackaging classic diets under new catchy titles and see which sticks. AI is coming ? Let's throw money at anyone with a vaguely related blog and expand t…

> The harder part to me: "books" aren't great in average. If all you're looking for is any book, then sure. But if you have specific interests in mind, or you actually take the time to get beyond an HBR listicle of the "5 best books for [x] topic", you can find so many good books. Too many too read in a lifetime. It's just insane how many great books there are given how many books there are already and are published…

You're right. And then the same thing applies to any generic medium: looking beyond the bulk of it and focusing on the good parts will yield life changing discoveries.

I think the main points are whether there's an incentive for communicate, and whether filtering mechanisms can surface the interesting parts. For a long time, book deals and publications were basically the only venue to monetize ideas at scale.

Nowadays monetization can happen differently and more diverse media. Also a well trained algorithm will often be better than having only human curation, all biases included.

All in all, I've learned more and read more research papers starting from online videos and discussions in the last decade than from any of the books I read in my entire life. That's where I see obsessions on a single medium (books) to miss the mark.

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Post by intended »

staticman2 wrote: post #420
intended wrote: post #332

Man, everyone is happy with these advancements, and they are impressive. I’m here looking at users and wondering - the content pipelines are broader, but the exit points of attention and human brains are constant. How the heck are you supposed to know if your content is valid? During a recent apple event, someone on YT had an AI generated video of Tim Cook announcing a crypto collaboration; it had a 100k users before…

Before photography was invented, mass communications was all just words on paper, right? How would you know that the British burned down the white house in 1812? Anyone could fake a paper document saying it so. (Except many people were illiterate.) As far as I can see you need institutions you can trust.

Everyone is focusing on photography.

1) it’s not the tech. It’s the rate of production. You had only 1 newspaper, no mass media, and boatloads of time in the 1800s

2) Before photography was created we lived in a world steeped in superstition, inequality and ignorance. A tiny economy compared to what we have today.

3) humanity changed with the advent of photography. It ushered in a new standard of proof that modern society depends on to this day.

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Post by baby »

reneberlin wrote: post #736

We humans are so excessively dependent on vision input and with entertaining through visuals, too. But more and more all those visuals become meaningless to me and it all just feels like fast-food-junk to me. As any pre-schooler will be able to produce anything (watch out parents) imaginable in seconds doesn't make it better to me or is of any real value. Ok, i needed to edit it again to add: maybe this IS the value…

Yeah I agree, I never understood the appeal of photography, it's so easy, you don't need to paint for hours to produce something original, you just need to buy a camera and click on a button. That's it. And people pay for that, I don't get it.

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Post by baby »

jsheard wrote: post #556
jetrink wrote: post #450

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A friend who lives in North Carolina sent me a video of the raging floodwaters in his state- at least that's what the superimposed text claimed it was. When I looked closer, it was clearly an Indian city filled with Indian people and Indian cars. He hadn't noticed anything except the flood water. It reminded me of that famous selective attention test video[1]. I won't ruin it for those who haven't seen it, but it's a…

For the entire duration of the Russia/Ukraine war "combat footage" that is actually from the video game ARMA 3 has gone viral fairly regularly, and now exactly the same thing is happening with Israel/Iran.

Dude I clicked on some random Youtube accounts that were streaming the world cup live, and it took me a while to realize that they were actually just streaming video games replica of the actual game (at least, I think they were simulating the actual game with a video game, but I'm not sure as I didn't compare closely)

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Post by [deleted] »

sionisrecur wrote: post #257
chucky_z wrote: post #241

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VFX artists cannot sleep well, they're already being displaced with AI or being forced to use it to massively increase their output. Here's an example thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/vfx/comments/1e4zdj7/in_the_climate... I am not trying to be negative, however it is the reality that ML/LLM has eliminated entire industries. Medical transcription for example is essentially gone.

I don't see it as that much of a problem. It's like washing machines taking away people's job of washing clothes, what are they gonna do with their time now? Maybe something more productive.

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Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by bamboozled »

chucky_z wrote: post #310
sionisrecur wrote: post #257

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I don't see it as that much of a problem. It's like washing machines taking away people's job of washing clothes, what are they gonna do with their time now? Maybe something more productive.

… something more productive than art? that’s quite a productive thing. art has tremendous value to society. why don’t we automate the washing machine more instead of automating the artist?

Because some companies stumbled on this treasure first. Need to milk immediately.
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