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Post by slavik81 »

petesergeant wrote: post #177
Fluorescence wrote: post #170

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Cheaper more effective entertainment is likely to only cause more problems: it will be more addictive, better at hijacking our brains and attention, better at pushing the propaganda goals of the author, better at filling traditional "human needs" of relationships that forever separates us from each other into a civilisation of Hikikomori. I have little faith in an optimistic view of human nature where we voluntarily…

We'll be able to start fuzz testing the human brain. A horror film that uses bio-feedback to really push the bits that are actually terrifying you, in real-time. Campaign videos that lean in to the bit that your lizard brain is responding to.

The Onion was ahead of the curve with "New Live Poll Lets Punits Pander To Viewers In Real Time". https://youtu.be/uFpK_r-jEXg

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Post by demaga »

TrackerFF wrote: post #6

All the vids have that instantly recognizable GenAI "sheen", for the lack of a better word. Also, I think the most obvious giveaway are all the micro-variations that happen along the edges, which give a fuzzy artifact.

It is maybe recognizable in most cases, but definitely not instantly nor easily. I could definitely see nobody noticing one of those clips used in an otherwise non-AI video production.

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Post by [deleted] »

adventured wrote: post #173
jppittma wrote: post #100

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Or maybe, the limiting factor in one's ability to create art will be... creativity rather than the technical skills necessary to make movies, draw, or pluck strings.

99% of humanity have very little interest in creating. They're mimics, they're fine with copying, hitting repost, et al. You see this across all social media without exception (TikTok being the most obvious mimic example, but it's the same on Reddit as well). You see it in day to day life. You see it in how people spend their time. You see it in how people spend their money. And none of this is new. The public can cr…

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Post by yojo »

tqi wrote: post #512
altairprime wrote: post #439

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At “the public” Internet scale, if a hundred million people click Generate, imagine if Meta ends up paying a million dollars instantaneously. - How many clicks of Generate are budgeted for? - How many clicks should each user’s quota be? - How much advertising revenue will be earned per click? - Why should they give away a million dollars? Right now, AI costs for this are so high that offering this feature ‘for free’…

Meta owns their data centers, so I don't think that framing is quite right. Increased traffic might cost marginally more in terms of electricity usage, but I think mostly what would happen is the service would degrade.

The hardware serving web requests on Facebook is very different from the hardware used to generate these videos. It’s different kit, that is currently quite expensive and power intensive.

Facebook absolutely does not have a fleet of GPUs idling that could suddenly spring into action to generate a billion of these videos, nor do they have power stations on standby ready to handle the electricity load.

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Post by scotty79 »

jetrink wrote: post #450
lopis wrote: post #52

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I assure you that's not enough. These are high quality videos. Once they get uploaded to social media, compression mostly makes imperfections go away. And it's been shown that when people are not expecting AI content, they are much less likely to realize they are looking at AI. I would 100% believe most of these videos were real if caught off guard.

A friend who lives in North Carolina sent me a video of the raging floodwaters in his state- at least that's what the superimposed text claimed it was. When I looked closer, it was clearly an Indian city filled with Indian people and Indian cars. He hadn't noticed anything except the flood water. It reminded me of that famous selective attention test video[1]. I won't ruin it for those who haven't seen it, but it's a…

If you see a text accompanying some content you can de-prime yourself by saying "nuh-uh, that's exactly what it's fscking not."

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Post by spywaregorilla »

derefr wrote: post #499
Twisell wrote: post #445

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Most probably they employ overseas, underpaid workers with non-standard English accents and so they include text-to-speach in the production process to smoothen the end result. I won't argue wether text to speech qualifies as an AI but I agree they must be making bank.

> Most probably they employ overseas, underpaid workers with non-standard English accents and so they include text-to-speach in the production process to smoothen the end result. Might also be an AI voice-changer (i.e. speech2speech) model. These models are most well-known for being used to create "if [famous singer] performed [famous song not by them]" covers — you sing the song yourself, then run your recording thr…

Can you identify any of these models?

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Post by sleepybrett »

It should be federal law that any video created with GenAI should be watermarked both stenographically and visually. (Same goes for images and audio.. not sure what can be done about ascii)

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Post by Fricken »

jppittma wrote: post #100
nthdesign wrote: post #92

My kids both have creative hearts, and they are terrified that A.I. will prevent them from earning a living through creativity. Very recently, I've had an alternate thought. We've spent decades improving the technology of entertainment, spending billions (trillions?) of dollars in the process. When A.I. can generate any entertainment you can imagine, we might start finding this kind of entertainment boring. Maybe, at…

Or maybe, the limiting factor in one's ability to create art will be... creativity rather than the technical skills necessary to make movies, draw, or pluck strings.

You don't need any special technical skills to write the next great American novel. Few people actually do it. Talent and dedication are as elusive as ever.

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Post by qwery »

What can you even say about this stuff? It's another incremental improvement, good job Mark. These new video clips of yours are certainly something. I don't know how you do it. Round of applause for Mark!

I will now review some of the standout clips.

That alien thing in the water is horrifying. The background fish look pretty convincing, except for the really flamboyant one in the dark.

I guess I should be impressed that the kite string seems to be rendered every frame and appears to be connected between the hand and the kite most of the time. The whole thing is really stressful though.

drunk sloth with weirdly crisp shadow should take the top slot from girl in danger of being stolen by kite.

man demonstrates novel chain sword fire stick with four or five dimensions might be better off in the bin...

> The camera is behind a man. The man is shirtless, wearing a green cloth around his waist. He is barefoot. With a fiery object in each hand, he creates wide circular motions. A calm sea is in the background. The atmosphere is mesmerizing, with the fire dance.

This just reads like slightly clumsy lyrics to a lost Ween song.

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Post by paul7986 »

echoangle wrote: post #507
paul7986 wrote: post #495

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That's why websites uploaders need to read the meta data and found out how it was originally generated then publish / label it ..AI generated it its first creation was such.

And how would you actually enforce that? What would happen if I as a private person AI-generated something on my computer and upload it without the metadata? Would I go to prison?

governments need to enforce that into all upload(ing) tech (web browser builders, apple's iphone sdk, androids, etc) and require all websites/apps to publish/label the metadata showing AI generated or not.
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