Running 3 different BSDs is not my idea of solving problems.
Why and how we’re migrating many of our servers from Linux to the BSDs
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Re: Why and how we’re migrating many of our servers from Linux to the BSDs
#162I use Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all for fun, learning, and profit(the first two). At the very least it is nice to make acquaintance with at least one BSD because it will probably expand your knowledge on Linux in ways you wont be able to anticipate. For example, FreeBSD got me into kernel development, full system debugging, network stack development, driver development, and understanding how the whole kit f…
I see the reason for dual stack but I would rather focus my efforts into securing one OS. If you buy into that, why not 3 or 4 different OSes?
Re: Why and how we’re migrating many of our servers from Linux to the BSDs
#163> The largest failure was with btrfs — after a reboot, a 50 TB filesystem (in mirror, for backups) simply stopped working. No more mounting possible. Data was lost, but I had further backups. The client was informed and understood the situation. Within a few days, the server was rebuilt from scratch on FreeBSD with ZFS — since then, I haven’t lost a single bit. As someone who admins a lot of btrfs, it seems very unli…
If btrfs knows the data is intact, shouldn't btrfs recover automatically?
Re: Why and how we’re migrating many of our servers from Linux to the BSDs
#164I use Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all for fun, learning, and profit(the first two). At the very least it is nice to make acquaintance with at least one BSD because it will probably expand your knowledge on Linux in ways you wont be able to anticipate. For example, FreeBSD got me into kernel development, full system debugging, network stack development, driver development, and understanding how the whole kit f…
I see the reason for dual stack but I would rather focus my efforts into securing one OS. If you buy into that, why not 3 or 4 different OSes?
3-4 would be great. What would you pick for the rest in this day and age though?
Re: Why and how we’re migrating many of our servers from Linux to the BSDs
#165Ladies and gentlemen, this person solves problems. Let it be known.
he gave himself a pat on the back
Re: Why and how we’re migrating many of our servers from Linux to the BSDs
#166> The largest failure was with btrfs — after a reboot, a 50 TB filesystem (in mirror, for backups) simply stopped working. No more mounting possible. Data was lost, but I had further backups. The client was informed and understood the situation. Within a few days, the server was rebuilt from scratch on FreeBSD with ZFS — since then, I haven’t lost a single bit. As someone who admins a lot of btrfs, it seems very unli…
> As someone who admins a lot of btrfs, it seems very unlikely that this was unrecoverable. As someone who used it all day every day in my day job for 4 years, I find it 100% believable. I am not saying you're wrong: I'm saying, experiences differ widely, and your patterns of use are not be universal. It's the single most unreliable untrustworthy filesystem I've used in the 21st century.
The first time I tried it out about 4 years old, I bricked it within a few days!! It was on a new (to me) Linux distro or maybe an existing one but I heard it was cool and the snapshots sounded neat.
I stayed away for a while but have it again on a Garuda install. I never completely give up on a technology, I hope they get it together.
Re: Why and how we’re migrating many of our servers from Linux to the BSDs
#167I use Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all for fun, learning, and profit(the first two). At the very least it is nice to make acquaintance with at least one BSD because it will probably expand your knowledge on Linux in ways you wont be able to anticipate. For example, FreeBSD got me into kernel development, full system debugging, network stack development, driver development, and understanding how the whole kit f…
I see the reason for dual stack but I would rather focus my efforts into securing one OS. If you buy into that, why not 3 or 4 different OSes?
Because tradeoffs and diminishing returns are a thing? For example having one backup is better than having no backups. Backups spread across earth, moon and mars would be better but probaboy not worth the cost.
Re: Why and how we’re migrating many of our servers from Linux to the BSDs
#168> The largest failure was with btrfs — after a reboot, a 50 TB filesystem (in mirror, for backups) simply stopped working. No more mounting possible. Data was lost, but I had further backups. The client was informed and understood the situation. Within a few days, the server was rebuilt from scratch on FreeBSD with ZFS — since then, I haven’t lost a single bit. As someone who admins a lot of btrfs, it seems very unli…
> As someone who admins a lot of btrfs, it seems very unlikely that this was unrecoverable. As someone who used it all day every day in my day job for 4 years, I find it 100% believable. I am not saying you're wrong: I'm saying, experiences differ widely, and your patterns of use are not be universal. It's the single most unreliable untrustworthy filesystem I've used in the 21st century.
> It's the single most unreliable untrustworthy filesystem I've used in the 21st century.
I think the “experiences differ widely” point makes sense with this comment too. Synology uses btrfs on the NAS systems it sells (there’s probably some option to choose another filesystem, but this is the default, AFAIK). If it were to be “the most unreliable untrustworthy filesystem” for many others too, Synology would’ve (or should’ve) chosen something else.
Re: Why and how we’re migrating many of our servers from Linux to the BSDs
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see the reason for dual stack but I would rather focus my efforts into securing one OS. If you buy into that, why not 3 or 4 different OSes?
3-4 would be great. What would you pick for the rest in this day and age though?
I'm still waiting for BeOS to make a come back
Re: Why and how we’re migrating many of our servers from Linux to the BSDs
#170I use Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all for fun, learning, and profit(the first two). At the very least it is nice to make acquaintance with at least one BSD because it will probably expand your knowledge on Linux in ways you wont be able to anticipate. For example, FreeBSD got me into kernel development, full system debugging, network stack development, driver development, and understanding how the whole kit f…
> it will probably expand your knowledge
It really just fragments my knowledge to be honest.
Say "I gotta get things done".
Get me to a terminal. You've got Mac OS command line flags, GNU, BSD. Great.
Then it's some kind of asinine config to interact with some piece of software, all to achieve "generally the same thing", just a different way/flavor.
I really don't see the benefits.