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Post by yieldcrv »

intended wrote: post #332

Man, everyone is happy with these advancements, and they are impressive. I’m here looking at users and wondering - the content pipelines are broader, but the exit points of attention and human brains are constant. How the heck are you supposed to know if your content is valid? During a recent apple event, someone on YT had an AI generated video of Tim Cook announcing a crypto collaboration; it had a 100k users before…

I only care about being able to express myself more easily

Maybe get a job where interviewers are biased against my actual look and pedigree

Just ignore everyone else’s use of the tool

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Post by AyyEye »

intended wrote: post #332

Man, everyone is happy with these advancements, and they are impressive. I’m here looking at users and wondering - the content pipelines are broader, but the exit points of attention and human brains are constant. How the heck are you supposed to know if your content is valid? During a recent apple event, someone on YT had an AI generated video of Tim Cook announcing a crypto collaboration; it had a 100k users before…

The Information Bomb. There's a reason military types and spooks are joining the boards of OpenAI and friends.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/203092.The_Information_B...

> After the era of the atomic bomb, Virilio posits an era of genetic and information bombs which replace the apocalyptic bang of nuclear death with the whimper of a subliminally reinforced eugenics. We are entering the age of euthanasia.

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Post by chankstein38 »

turblety wrote: post #127

Why do these video generation ones never become usable to the public. Is it just they had to create millions of videos and cherry pick only a handful of decent generations? Or is it just so expensive there's no business model for it? My mind instantly assumes it a money thing and they're just wanting to charge millions for it, therefore out of reach for the general public. But then with Meta's whole stance on open ai…

Came here to say this... These companies all want patted on the back for how cool their video models are but we're still waiting on Sora since like last year. More and more publish these "look at us" papers but don't publish the models or even give us access to them.

They do exist, Luma AI DreamMachine is pretty cool. As well as Kling, Minimax, etc. But they aren't anything like Sora or this appear to be. They work but these, while likely cherry-picked, are still a whole new breed of video generation. But who knows if we'll ever actually get to use them or if we're just supposed to reflect on them and think about how cool and impressive Facebook and OpenAI are.

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Post by coldcode »

intended wrote: post #332

Man, everyone is happy with these advancements, and they are impressive. I’m here looking at users and wondering - the content pipelines are broader, but the exit points of attention and human brains are constant. How the heck are you supposed to know if your content is valid? During a recent apple event, someone on YT had an AI generated video of Tim Cook announcing a crypto collaboration; it had a 100k users before…

Also, cost. How many do you have to generate to get something you want? Does it take 1 or a 100 attempts to get something reasonable, and what does it cost for each attempt? Might not affect Hollywood, but someone has to pay for this to be profitable for Meta. How many 5-Gigawatt power stations will be required (what OpenAI wants to build all over the country) if lots of people use this?

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Post by aenvoker »

consteval wrote: post #268
schmidtleonard wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You still make these. You sit down and form the art. When you use a camera you don't make anything. You press a button and the camera makes it. You haven't even described it. When you use photoshop you don't make anything. You press buttons and the software just draws the pixels for you. It doesn't make you a painter. When you use 3D rendering software you don't make anything. You tell the computer about the scene…

Sorry, I don't think it's the same because making physical specifications via modifying pixels, or 3D art, or forming a shot is something you do. It's the difference between making a house with wood and making a house by telling someone to make a house. One is making a house, one isn't. The problem with AI is that it's natural language. So there's no skill there, you're describing something, you're commissioning it.…

Try it sometime. Don't just type one prompt and declare the job done. Try to make something that invokes a reaction in yourself.

AI makes it easy to generate ten thousand random images. Making something of interest still requires a lot of digging in the tools and in your self.

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Post by zoogeny »

nthdesign wrote: post #92

My kids both have creative hearts, and they are terrified that A.I. will prevent them from earning a living through creativity. Very recently, I've had an alternate thought. We've spent decades improving the technology of entertainment, spending billions (trillions?) of dollars in the process. When A.I. can generate any entertainment you can imagine, we might start finding this kind of entertainment boring. Maybe, at…

Consider another angle.

I follow a lot of the new AI gen crowd on Twitter. This community is made up of a lot of creative industry people. One guy who worked in commercials shared a recent job he was on for a name brand. They had a soundstage, actors, sound people, makeup, lighting, etc. setup for 3 days for the shoot. Something like 25 people working for 3 days. But behind that was about 3 months of effort if one includes pre-production and post-production. Think about editing, color correction, sound editing, music, etc.

Your creative children may live in a world where they can achieve a similar result themselves. Perhaps as a small team, one person working on characters, one person doing audio, one person writing a script. Instead of needing tens of thousands of dollars of rented equipment and 25 experts, they will be able to take ideas from their own head and realize them with persistence and AI generation.

I honestly believe these new tools will unlock potential beyond what we can currently imagine.

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Post by tiborsaas »

wiseowise wrote: post #90

So I’m probably going to be too closed minded about this: but who the f*ck asked for this and did anyone consider consequences of easily accessible AI slop generation? It’s already nearly impossible to find quality content on the internet if you don’t know where to look at.

I did and I'm quite happy that this is happening :) It's unleashing a new computing era when you just have to lean back, close your eyes and your vision can materialize without a Hollywood production crew.

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Post by paganel »

intended wrote: post #332

Man, everyone is happy with these advancements, and they are impressive. I’m here looking at users and wondering - the content pipelines are broader, but the exit points of attention and human brains are constant. How the heck are you supposed to know if your content is valid? During a recent apple event, someone on YT had an AI generated video of Tim Cook announcing a crypto collaboration; it had a 100k users before…

A State-actor could have already done that manipulation using CGI or something. The answer is not to trust the people and persons who one sees as not to be trusted. As per your Israel example, I don’t personality trust them because I have low levels of trust in genocidal regimes, so even if IDF-asset Gal Gadot were to come to my door and tell me that I won a million dollars I would just slam-shut the door in her face, never mind her and her ilk trying to convince me and people like me through videos posted on the internet of whatever it is they are trying to convince people of.

Again, plain common sense just works, most of the times.

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Post by diggan »

causal wrote: post #162
diggan wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Any chance of this being released open weights? Considering that Facebook/Meta releases blog posts titled "Open Source AI Is the Path Forward" but then refuses to actually release any Open Source AI, I'm guessing the answer is a hard "No". They might release it under usage restrictions though, like they did with Llama, although probably only the smaller versions, to limit the output quality.

They have released a ton of open source? Llama 3 includes open training code, datasets, and models. Not to mention open-sourcing the foundation of most AI research today, pytorch.

Llama 3 is licensed under "Llama 3 Community License Agreement" which includes restrictions on usage, clearly not "Open Source" as we traditionally know it.

Just because pytorch is Open Source doesn't mean everything Meta AI releases is Open Source, not sure how that would make sense.

Datasets for Llama 3 is "A new mix of publicly available online data.", not exactly open or even very descriptive. That could be anything.

And no, the training code for Llama 3 isn't available, response from a Meta employee was: "However, at the moment-we haven't open sourced the pre-training scripts".

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