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Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by kyleee »

batch12 wrote: post #157
photomatt wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was more generous than both the Basecamp and Coinbase buyout offers, I'm curious why you say I'm a petty tyrant. I can be a little ASD so sometimes my written communication doesn't come through the best.

It looks to me like passive aggressive lynch mobbing. Putting the issues aside, you seem to be doing a good job not letting the comments that charge you with medical and psychological issues get to you. Figured I'd throw at least one positive comment your way.

“passive aggressive lynch mobbing” maybe, just maybe, you are overstating

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by Hamuko »

user90131313 wrote: post #31
Maro wrote: post #23

8.4% or 159 employees is a lot of people, this will be long-remember at this company. On the other hand, most companies easily have at least 20% headcount overhead, so it'll be okay.

twitter fired a lot more % and it's still working

The spam filtering system sure as shit isn't working. The amount of spam DMs I get is crazy. The trends section has also been busted for ages. Click on the "Show more" link and it shows you less.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by baggy_trough »

arromatic wrote: post #18

I am a bit out of the loop does any one have a summary of what is happening with automattic and wpengine ?

Matt Mullenweg is as mad as a hatter. Unfortunately that means that it is long term unsafe to use WordPress until he is removed, if he can be.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by toyg »

ubermonkey wrote: post #222
legitster wrote: post #213

I've brought this up in another thread, but what's stopping Automattic from going after anyone making a profit in the WP community? Website developers, plugin makers, theme designers, etc. Everyone is using the Wordpress trademark to promote their service and the plugins library to keep their services updated. If that's the legal precedent being used now, Automattic winning the lawsuit implies that nearly the entire…

I mean, nothing. It's clear Matt will do whatever Matt wants, which is fine for him, but bad for the community and the platform. The "Wordpress era" has gone on a really long time. That longevity makes it easy to forget how quickly these things can change; remember Movable Type was the king of the blogging systems for a good while, until THEY (if I recall correctly) did a gross moneygrab and WP filled the gap. How qu…

Movable Type never had the foothold that Wordpress has developed over the years.

Once you reach a certain size, inertia alone will allow you to survive for a very long time, even making bad mistakes. Digg died because it was still small enough that a mistake could kill it; Reddit is now so big that the exact same mistakes (or even worse ones) will just not stop it. Same for Twitter or Facebook. Wordpress is way past the size where it will take something more than an isolated legal case to cut it to size.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by whateveracct »

senadir wrote: post #214
lolinder wrote: post #206

The article says that ~80% of the departures (126 people) were in the WordPress division, but doesn't indicate the size of that division. That's a much more interesting number than 8% of the company as a whole—depending on the size of the division and the sub teams affected that could be an enormous amount of WordPress brain drain. For scale, Automattic has previously indicated that "over 100" people work on WordPres…

WordPress division doesn’t mean the open source one, it means anyone working on WordPress related products, like jetpack, Woo, VIP, dotcom… The rest work on non-wp like tumblr, dayone, beeper and other apps.

tumblr's backend is migrating to WP apparently

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by DHPersonal »

senadir wrote: post #214
lolinder wrote: post #206

The article says that ~80% of the departures (126 people) were in the WordPress division, but doesn't indicate the size of that division. That's a much more interesting number than 8% of the company as a whole—depending on the size of the division and the sub teams affected that could be an enormous amount of WordPress brain drain. For scale, Automattic has previously indicated that "over 100" people work on WordPres…

WordPress division doesn’t mean the open source one, it means anyone working on WordPress related products, like jetpack, Woo, VIP, dotcom… The rest work on non-wp like tumblr, dayone, beeper and other apps.

Most of Tumblr's staff no longer works on Tumblr. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/11/tumblr-is-reportedly...

> The posted memo states that a majority of the 139 employees working on product and marketing at Tumblr (in a team apparently named "Bumblr") will "switch to other divisions."

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by [deleted] »

kyleee wrote: post #220
ufmace wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This actually makes me really suspicious about Automattic. Companies generally don't refuse to hire outside of certain countries just to be jerks, they do it because complying with international tax obligations while paying employees in dozens of countries is complex and expensive. Given that, and the behavior we've seen from Matt and Automattic so far, what are the odds that they've actually got a bunch of really gr…

It feels like you are just piling on really by engaging in such speculation. If I am wrong though please share your expertise on the difficulties of hiring remote in Algeria.

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Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by Arubis »

whateveracct wrote: post #235
senadir wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WordPress division doesn’t mean the open source one, it means anyone working on WordPress related products, like jetpack, Woo, VIP, dotcom… The rest work on non-wp like tumblr, dayone, beeper and other apps.

tumblr's backend is migrating to WP apparently

Two months ago, this sounded like a pretty cool idea.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by ubermonkey »

toyg wrote: post #234
ubermonkey wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, nothing. It's clear Matt will do whatever Matt wants, which is fine for him, but bad for the community and the platform. The "Wordpress era" has gone on a really long time. That longevity makes it easy to forget how quickly these things can change; remember Movable Type was the king of the blogging systems for a good while, until THEY (if I recall correctly) did a gross moneygrab and WP filled the gap. How qu…

Movable Type never had the foothold that Wordpress has developed over the years. Once you reach a certain size, inertia alone will allow you to survive for a very long time, even making bad mistakes. Digg died because it was still small enough that a mistake could kill it; Reddit is now so big that the exact same mistakes (or even worse ones) will just not stop it. Same for Twitter or Facebook. Wordpress is way past…

That's definitely true, but MW shouldn't mistake inertia for immortality. WP doesn't really do anything novel.

I disagree about Twitter, tho. It's not been doing very well lately; it's been in all the papers.

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