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Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by beezlebroxxxxxx » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 1:58 PM UTC

voidUpdate wrote: post #30

Some of these look really obviously bad, like the guy spinning the fire and the girl running along the beach. And it completely failed at the bubbles

Yeah, some were impressive, but others looked quite bad. The guy running in the desert looked like a guy floating over the ground only sporadically making contact with the sand. The footfalls in a lot of these videos look pretty janky or "soft".

The clothing changes also have pretty rough edges, or just look like they're floating over the original model. The 3D glasses one looked atrocious. The lighting changes are also pretty lacking.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by nthdesign » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 1:59 PM UTC

My kids both have creative hearts, and they are terrified that A.I. will prevent them from earning a living through creativity. Very recently, I've had an alternate thought. We've spent decades improving the technology of entertainment, spending billions (trillions?) of dollars in the process. When A.I. can generate any entertainment you can imagine, we might start finding this kind of entertainment boring. Maybe, at that point, we decide that exploring space, stretching our knowledge of physics and chemistry, and combating disease are far more interesting because they are real. And, through the same lens, maybe human-created art is more interesting because it is real.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by sroerick » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 2:00 PM UTC

I haven’t had any luck being able to effectively generate compositions with text to image / text to video. Prompts like “subject in the lower third of the frame” have thus far completely failed me. I’m sure this will change in the future but this seems pretty fundamental for any ‘AI Powered Film’ to function the way a film director would.

Curious if anybody has a solution or if this works for that

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by ajkjk » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 2:00 PM UTC

cs702 wrote: post #35

Impressive. It's only going to get better, faster, cheaper, easier.[a] Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to ask the machines: "Turn this book into a two-hour movie with the likeness of [your favorite actor/actress] in the lead role." Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to have immersive VR experiences that are crafted to each person. Sooner than anyone could have expected, we won…

"we will be able to" -> "someone with a financial interest in my believing them says that we will be able to"

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by dyauspitr » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 2:00 PM UTC

keiferski wrote: post #89

cs702 wrote: post #35

Impressive. It's only going to get better, faster, cheaper, easier.[a] Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to ask the machines: "Turn this book into a two-hour movie with the likeness of [your favorite actor/actress] in the lead role." Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to have immersive VR experiences that are crafted to each person. Sooner than anyone could have expected, we won…

This sounds gimmicky and worth watching once or twice, then forgetting about. Worthwhile art will continue to be created from a specific person's/group's vision, not an algorithmically generated sum of personal preferences.

You’ll never be able to tell them apart.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by Animats » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 2:01 PM UTC

Likely results:

- Every script in Hollywood will now be submitted with a previs movie.

- Manga to anime converters.

- Online commercials for far more products.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by botanical76 » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 2:02 PM UTC

thinkingemote wrote: post #66

Are any image / video generation tools giving just the output or the layers, timelines, transitions, audio as things to work with in our old fashioned toolsets? The problem: In my limited playing of these tools they don't quite make the mark and I would easily be able to tweak something if I had all the layers used. I imagine in the future products could be used to tweak this to match what I think the output should b…

They definitely do not give you an Adobe After Effects project. This is because of the way they are trained. I suspect a vast proportion of its training data is not annotated with the corresponding layers, timelines, etc so the model is unable to reproduce it like that. You basically just get video AFAIK.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by solaris152000 » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 2:02 PM UTC

nthdesign wrote: post #92

My kids both have creative hearts, and they are terrified that A.I. will prevent them from earning a living through creativity. Very recently, I've had an alternate thought. We've spent decades improving the technology of entertainment, spending billions (trillions?) of dollars in the process. When A.I. can generate any entertainment you can imagine, we might start finding this kind of entertainment boring. Maybe, at…

I had a similar thought. I knew someone who lived a life of crime, for a long time he was very poor like most criminals, but for a while made it big. He could buy anything he wanted, he always liked suits so bought very nice suits. But they meant nothing to him, he couldn't enjoy them, as he didn't earn then.

I wonder if it will be the same with AI. When you can have anything for nothing, it has no value. So the digital world will have little meaning.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by wseqyrku » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 2:02 PM UTC

Looking at bolt.new I think all the Studio/IDE type of apps are going to look like that. Could be video or code or docs etc.

I can see myself paying a little too much to have a local setup for this.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by jppittma » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 2:03 PM UTC

nthdesign wrote: post #92

My kids both have creative hearts, and they are terrified that A.I. will prevent them from earning a living through creativity. Very recently, I've had an alternate thought. We've spent decades improving the technology of entertainment, spending billions (trillions?) of dollars in the process. When A.I. can generate any entertainment you can imagine, we might start finding this kind of entertainment boring. Maybe, at…

Or maybe, the limiting factor in one's ability to create art will be... creativity rather than the technical skills necessary to make movies, draw, or pluck strings.