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Re: Google Chrome now works on iOS

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What's pretty nauseating about it is that it's exactly the kind of anti-competitive crap that Microsoft pulled in the first browser war, only more so.

Why do people keep bringing this up? The situations are completely different. Microsoft bundled IE with Windows at a time where the internet was still painfully slow and it was difficult to download a different browser. They also allegedly put IE-specific APIs into Windows, giving it an unfair advantage. However, neither of these would have been enough to convict, if Microsoft hadn't also had a monopoly over the PC.…

I keep reading, there is no tablet market except for ipad. Why is that not considered monopoly?

Re: Google Chrome now works on iOS

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What's pretty nauseating about it is that it's exactly the kind of anti-competitive crap that Microsoft pulled in the first browser war, only more so.

Why do people keep bringing this up? The situations are completely different. Microsoft bundled IE with Windows at a time where the internet was still painfully slow and it was difficult to download a different browser. They also allegedly put IE-specific APIs into Windows, giving it an unfair advantage. However, neither of these would have been enough to convict, if Microsoft hadn't also had a monopoly over the PC.…

Well, how about putting in MobileSafari-specific APIs into iOS for marking memory write+executable, a necessity for performant JIT? :)

Re: Google Chrome now works on iOS

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post #91

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Why do people keep bringing this up? The situations are completely different. Microsoft bundled IE with Windows at a time where the internet was still painfully slow and it was difficult to download a different browser. They also allegedly put IE-specific APIs into Windows, giving it an unfair advantage. However, neither of these would have been enough to convict, if Microsoft hadn't also had a monopoly over the PC.…

I keep reading, there is no tablet market except for ipad. Why is that not considered monopoly?

Let me preface this with IANAL, just a very interested person.

It may very well be, but having a monopoly alone isn't not a crime. A crime in this case would be abusive practices of the monopoly.

What makes United States v. Microsoft different is a number of factors but the main factor was its restrictive licensing agreements with other OEMs. You could buy a computer from a variety of makers, but no matter what, this IE/Microsoft abusive relationship allegedly existed.

What this means is if you were an OEM, not only did you carry Windows as the operating system but that agreement forced you, the OEM, to package and include Internet Explorer. As others have pointed out at this time, downloading and installing alternative web-browsers was also a slow proposition or required someone visiting a store.

In particular it was ruled that Microsoft violated Sections 1 and 2 of the Sherman Antitrust Act

Apple does not have a monopoly over the dominant operating system for all tablets, only its own. Yes right now it is the dominant product in the space, but alternatives readily exist with the same availability as the iPad. You may argue that the Samsung case is an abuse of monopoly, I don't believe it is, abuse of IP law, perhaps - but that's a different discussion.

The way the situation would be analogous is if the majority of all tablet makers, all used iOS, and were forced by Apple to configure their installations in a way that benefited Apple products while hampering others. And even then it might not be the same, depending on how courts view the iPad as a device.

Re: Google Chrome now works on iOS

#95

The headline should read Google Chrome Skin now works on iOS. For all intents and purposes, the heart of the browser, i.e the rendering and scripting engines are not running on the iPad or iPhone. Would it be accurate to state that IE now works on the iPad if Microsoft ported the IE browser chrome(UI) to the iPad?

Note that Chrome on iOS does use the Chrome networking stack, which has a lot of enhancements - including SPDY.

Re: Google Chrome now works on iOS

#96

This is a poor decision on Google's part. The end result is it tarnishes the Chrome brand. Chrome's features like private browsing and tab/bookmark syncing are nice, but the defining feature of the brand IMO is that it is a very fast web browser. By linking the name to an app that will always be inherently slower than Safari on iOS, the brand is lessened with no significant upside. I understand their desire to allow…

Also keep in mind it's using the Chrome networking stack, just not the rendering and JS engine.

Re: Google Chrome now works on iOS

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Its not JavaScriptCore, its webkit (UIWebView which is non-Nitro). Tab syncing is one heck of a benefit, I can't wait to switch. Now I'm definitely going to stick with Chrome on my desktop, even though I'd been considering going back to Firefox. Quite disappointing on Apple's part that its only in iOS 6 that Notes and Calendar will be synced with OS X, still not Safari tabs.

Doesn't Safari on iOS 6 include tab sync? http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/11/safari-on-ios-6-to-feature-...

Months away. And I don’t think that’s really an argument against Chrome on iOS. Different people like to use different browsers on the desktop. If you use Chrome you don’t get tab syncing with mobile Safari. Also, some people might for example have an iPad and an Android phone. With mobile Safari, there is no way to sync tabs between the two. With Chrome there is.
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