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Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Generally the "real work" is outsourced (briefed out), in house legal only manages the work. In house lawyers don't have the day to day experience of dedicated trial lawyers.

Any professional outsourced lawyer would be telling the client to shut up on talking about the case on a public forum and incriminating themselves.

The professional lawyer telling the client to do so doesn't mean the client will. See the case of SBF for the most in-your-face example.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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> In a blog post, Mullenweg said the package offered $30,000 or six months of salary, whichever is higher, but the employees who took it would not be eligible to be re-hired by Automattic. Like never eligible? That seems kind of petty. I would understand some timeframe, like "not eligible for 3/4/5 years", but a permanent ban seems weird.

Why would you want to go back there anyway? The whole reason you are leaving is because you think the CEO is worse at adulting than a grade-schooler. I completely agree it’s petty, but it’s entirely in line with their behavior over the past few weeks. I guess at least it’s better than Musk?

> The whole reason you are leaving is because you think the CEO is worse at adulting than a grade-schooler.

30k probably has something to do with it.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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159 left and they are 8.4% of the workforce according to the article. 159 is 8.4% of X Equation: Y = P% of X Solving our equation for X X = Y/P% X = 159/8.4% Converting percent to decimal: X = 159/8.4\* 100 X = 1892.85714

So we can know for sure that those who stay think that the CEO made a good decision in this regard, simply because they declined this offer?

On the other hand, people looking to switch jobs or having sufficient options might take the easy cash despite not disagreeing (or not caring about the feud).

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Automattic is a fully remote company, getting jobs in APAC, Africa, and europe is tricky, not a lot are going to throw that away and hunt for a job for 6 months.

Stupid question but where exactly in the world is getting a remote job not tricky?

I may be wrong but I understand the comment above as saying that "getting jobs" in those places is now tricky. Not "getting remote jobs", just "getting jobs". In the sense that people who got now have a remote job at Automattic would have a hard time finding another job, even a non-remote one.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Define working. It's is currently on a path of slow but steady decline. It is no longer useful for breaking news and it is full with Only Fans tweets. However, if you want to read about Elon Musk or are into right wing conspiracy theories, it is still perfect.

Unless onlyfans has changed, there seems to plenty to enjoy outside of musk / the right wing.

It just makes the site NSFW.

If I want to enjoy Only Fans, I know where to find it.

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I would assume most Automattic employees are paid substantially more than $60k / year, so few people will be getting only 30k. At least in big American cities, $60k is a bus driver's salary.

That’s quite a lot. I imagine you’d be happy if you could get a little more than half as much in Europe.

It's an exaggeration. Starting salary in LA for a bus driver is $53k/year; NYC is $61k. Atlanta is $42k; Seattle $69k; Dallas $48k; Miami $43k. It's really only a very limited amount of cities that have $60k salaries for bus drivers.. and they're all cities where $60k doesn't get you that far.

For a comparison, starting salary for a bus driver in Paris is 30k euros (with no prerequisites, they will send you to learn how to drive a bus). I'd imagine the conditions are much better (a lot more time off, lower working hours), and the cost of living is lower, so those compensate for some of the difference.

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I'm skeptical, honestly. Within the first few months of the acquisition, it seemed pretty clear to my tech-friend group that Twitter was on its way out and was going to fail. But it's been 2 years, and many of those same people still use Twitter quite a lot. Maybe it'll still fail, of course... it'll just take longer than anyone expected. I was never a big fan of it, and never used it much, so I can't judge any loss…

I don't get why whole developer circles didn't leave the platform yet. You can't ask people something via DMs without paying for the blue checkmark and it's totally unhelpful, plus it sends the message you care not enough about the right wing messaging that is send by the platform now. Or these people are just ok with that, I don't know.

Network effects are a hell of a drug.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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I'm surprised more didn't take the offer. Maybe they have a better package of shares in the company that's worth the wait? Otherwise it seems like a great offer to take even if you've enjoyed working there and support Matt and his public meltdowns.

I thought the same, but the thing to remember is that 80% of the employees who took the offer were in the WordPress part of the company. Automattic is at this point a bunch of loosely related companies, it’s understandable that the Pocket Casts team for example are probably quite disconnected from WordPress and the drama.

In other words, for those actually affected by the drama, a much higher percentage left.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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So now we know the lawyers on both sides. To recap, in the lawsuit post, someone said about the law firm WP Engine got: > Quinn Emanuel is one of the premier (and most expensive) litigation firms in the US. Partners in their litigation department run $2000/hour or more. Associates cost almost $1000/hour. And I noted the team is lead by Rachel Kassabian who was lead counsel for Google which in Perfect 10 v Amazon (ori…

Here is now Automattic is presenting this for an opposing view:

> Neal has been adverse to Quinn Emanuel a number of times, and won every case.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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That’s quite a lot. I imagine you’d be happy if you could get a little more than half as much in Europe.

It's an exaggeration. Starting salary in LA for a bus driver is $53k/year; NYC is $61k. Atlanta is $42k; Seattle $69k; Dallas $48k; Miami $43k. It's really only a very limited amount of cities that have $60k salaries for bus drivers.. and they're all cities where $60k doesn't get you that far. For a comparison, starting salary for a bus driver in Paris is 30k euros (with no prerequisites, they will send you to learn…

Automattic is headquartered in San Francisco, where $60k is a bus driver's salary.

So there are probably very few employees whose 6-month salary would only equal $30k. Most people leaving will be getting a lot more.

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