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Chrome 20 Takes Over Adobe Flash On Linux

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Re: Chrome 20 Takes Over Adobe Flash On Linux

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

freehunter wrote: post #50
drivebyacct2 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't... double clicking the URL bar solve this problem?

please don't tell me about your keyboard shortcuts, don't tell me to click three times, don't tell me to click and drag... if you're making me use your browser, let me use it the way I want to. The problem is it's inconsistent with other platforms.

No, the problem is that Google Chrome in Linux treats the textbox the same way the textbox is treated every, other, place in Linux. Browsers in Windows are the only place that this behavior is exhibited. It's the exception behavior.

That's like saying "Chrome uses metacity instead of the OS X window decorations".

If it makes you feel any better, I'd like to be able to override the platform default so that single clicking in Chrome at work doesn't select all of the text.

Re: Chrome 20 Takes Over Adobe Flash On Linux

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Post by ajross »

biot wrote: post #49
gman99 wrote: post #38

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>>Where does Alt-D come from? Internet Explorer. If I remember correctly, Phoenix (firefox) was the first browser to support that keybinding. The lack of support for this shortcut in Netscape/Mozilla was one of the reasons I struggled to switch away from IE back in the day. Really hated Ctrl+L as it required two hands (OK, you need two hands to type out the URL, but I was used to Alt+D dammit! :)

It is the shortcut on the first 'd' in "Address", or "A&ddress" for any WIN32 developers out there.

Bingo, that's the archaeology I was looking for. Thanks!

Re: Chrome 20 Takes Over Adobe Flash On Linux

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Post by tjoff »

freehunter wrote: post #39
tjoff wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bit beside the point but why don't you just use alt+d ? It will perhaps feel a bit weird at first if you're used to go to the address-bar with the mouse but really, since you are going to type an address you are still going to use the keyboard anyway.

In the bug tracker discussion, they mentioned keyboard shortcuts. In my post, I mentioned I didn't want to use them. My hand is on the mouse to navigate the page, it's on the mouse to get to the URL bar, and it's on the mouse to click it. Often times I can type the URL with three fingers and three keys via muscle memory, then click the result when it pops up. That takes one hand on the keyboard, and no concentration.…

I often do the same. I type the beginning of a URL and use the mouse to finish it off, that's why I love ald+d because I can hit it with my left hand alone (and don't need to bother the right hand that's on the mouse).

There is a balance of having everything customizable and forcing the users to adapt. In this case both Mozilla and Google have made the same call, they feel that this is how it is supposed to be on Linux - I don't think we can blame them for that.

Firefox has always been about customizability while chrome has always been about simplicity, you just don't have that level of detail of customizability in Chrome - for good or worse, that's why. If anything I'd be surprised if they did present this as an option (for every option they do get wrong that sucks but they have been doing a remarkably good job overall (in my opinion), but I'm with you on this one).

Re: Chrome 20 Takes Over Adobe Flash On Linux

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Post by kayoone »

azakai wrote: post #42
kayoone wrote: post #22

Hopefully this will lead other browser makers to integrate Native Client as well which would lead to a world free of browser-plugins!

> Hopefully this will lead other browser makers to integrate Native Client as well which would lead to a world free of browser-plugins! That is self-contradictory. Native Client is a browser plugin (it uses the PPAPI browser plugin interface).

still native client is open source and could easily be integrated into every brother, just like chrome does it. This would eliminate the need for every other plugin.

Re: Chrome 20 Takes Over Adobe Flash On Linux

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Post by kaolinite »

jiggy2011 wrote: post #18
qznc wrote: post #17

Does that include a fix for the smurf bug? https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3109467 Unfortunatelly, the last and final release of Adobe Flash for Linux has a bug, which shuffles the colors in Youtube videos. So far it seemed they never fix that.

You can fix that by disabling hardware acceleration. Right click on a flash element -> settings -> untick

Took me 3 months of hallucinogenic youtube videos for me to discover that.

Re: Chrome 20 Takes Over Adobe Flash On Linux

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Post by Tichy »

freehunter wrote: post #29

This is good news for Flash, but it does make me sad. Not because it means Flash will continue to be around, but because I really don't like Chrome on Linux. Don't get me wrong, I love Chrome. I use it on Windows all the time. But Linux has this little niggle I can't stand with default browser behavior: Firefox calls it "browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll". And Firefox allows you to change that to true or false. I'm not…

I usually select all by clicking and dragging upwards a bit. Works on OS X at least.

Re: Chrome 20 Takes Over Adobe Flash On Linux

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Post by azakai »

kayoone wrote: post #54
azakai wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hopefully this will lead other browser makers to integrate Native Client as well which would lead to a world free of browser-plugins! That is self-contradictory. Native Client is a browser plugin (it uses the PPAPI browser plugin interface).

still native client is open source and could easily be integrated into every brother, just like chrome does it. This would eliminate the need for every other plugin.

> still native client is open source and could easily be integrated into every brother, just like chrome does it. This would eliminate the need for every other plugin.

First of all, being open source doesn't mean it is easy to integrate, either technically or otherwise (by otherwise, I mean that other browser makers have principles that determine what technology makes sense to put in their browser, and NaCl does not necessarily pass them).

Second, how would this eliminate the need for every other plugin? Chrome has NaCl but it still has Flash.

Re: Chrome 20 Takes Over Adobe Flash On Linux

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Post by jdpage »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #35
freehunter wrote: post #29

This is good news for Flash, but it does make me sad. Not because it means Flash will continue to be around, but because I really don't like Chrome on Linux. Don't get me wrong, I love Chrome. I use it on Windows all the time. But Linux has this little niggle I can't stand with default browser behavior: Firefox calls it "browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll". And Firefox allows you to change that to true or false. I'm not…

Do not try and bend the spoon. That is impossible. Instead, only try and realize the truth - there is no spoon. Then you will see it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself. Eg - when you can't adapt the world to yourself, adapt yourself to the world. Don't get emotionally affected by every little annoyance in the world and especially technology, that way madness lies. Eg - pick a workaround, go with it, hab…

Double-clicking also selects the entire address bar.

Re: Chrome 20 Takes Over Adobe Flash On Linux

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Post by [deleted] »

jiggy2011 wrote: post #18
qznc wrote: post #17

Does that include a fix for the smurf bug? https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3109467 Unfortunatelly, the last and final release of Adobe Flash for Linux has a bug, which shuffles the colors in Youtube videos. So far it seemed they never fix that.

You can fix that by disabling hardware acceleration. Right click on a flash element -> settings -> untick

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