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Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by valval »

adamrezich wrote: post #172
pragmomm wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canvas is closer to Cursor ( https://www.cursor.com ) than Claude. I wonder how Paul Graham thinks of Sam Altman basically copying Cursor and potentially every upstream AI company out of YC, maybe as soon as they launch on demo day. Is it a retribution arc?

It's just a company that promised AGI would somehow come from developing LLM-based products, rapidly scrambling to keep up with other LLM-based products, to distract from the fact that it's becoming increasingly apparent that AGI is not coming anytime soon.

The idea of AGI is silly. It’s ludicrous. Who’s been counting on it to happen?

OpenAI are in the money making business. They don’t care about no AGI. They’re experts who know where the limits are at the moment.

We don’t have the tools for AGI any more than we do for time travel.

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Post by munchler »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #174
cj wrote: post #4

This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…

> demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs Or Microsoft! > think OpenAI will end up being either an infrastructure provider OR a SaaS, but not both Microsoft cut off OpenAI's ability to execute on the former by making Azure their exclusive cloud partner. Being an infrastructure provider with zero metal is doable, but it leaves obvious room for a competitor to optimise.

Microsoft is integrating Copilot into many of their products, including Visual Studio and Office/365.

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Post by icelancer »

mtam wrote: post #221
joshstrange wrote: post #216

The issue I continue to have with many AI coding tools is they want me to use their own editor ("native", aka VSCode fork, or in the browser like this). I have zero intention of moving away from IDEA and nothing I've seen so far is good enough to make me want to switch. I really with there was more of "bringing AI into your existing tools/workflows" instead of "here is a new tool with AI baked in".

Have you considered this one: https://github.com/continuedev/continue

I used this while Cursor was broken (Pylance problems), but Continue's code replace tooling sometimes will delete huge swaths of adjacent code. I've filed a comprehensive ticket in their repo and they're working on it, but I've been able to reproduce the problem recently.

I think it has to do with Cursor's much better custom small models for code search/replace, but can't be sure.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by sebastiennight »

lionkor wrote: post #36
thornewolf wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe you are attacking a strawman here.

I believe it's not solving a real problem. I believe that the human skills of reasoning, logical thinking, etc. make it possible for any able minded human to do the things I just mentioned, given time and money is provided. AI can't do that. Let's call that process "programming". It cant do programming. It pretends to program.

As an able-minded human, could you please make TensorFlow faster, better, cleaner?

I mean, there's strong incentive for you (it would be worth tens of millions, possibly billions if your iteration is superior enough).

How much time do you need?

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Post by icelancer »

bagels wrote: post #261
joshstrange wrote: post #216

The issue I continue to have with many AI coding tools is they want me to use their own editor ("native", aka VSCode fork, or in the browser like this). I have zero intention of moving away from IDEA and nothing I've seen so far is good enough to make me want to switch. I really with there was more of "bringing AI into your existing tools/workflows" instead of "here is a new tool with AI baked in".

Even if you use vscode, they want you to use a vscode fork... Why not just make a vscode plugin?

Continue.dev's plugin is as close as it gets for Cursor, but there are clearly limitations to a VSCode plugin when it comes to the inline editing and code search/replace - made a comment above about it.

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Post by wseqyrku »

joshstrange wrote: post #216

The issue I continue to have with many AI coding tools is they want me to use their own editor ("native", aka VSCode fork, or in the browser like this). I have zero intention of moving away from IDEA and nothing I've seen so far is good enough to make me want to switch. I really with there was more of "bringing AI into your existing tools/workflows" instead of "here is a new tool with AI baked in".

Only if you could commit the changes in the browser and pull locally?

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Post by ben_w »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #83
wenc wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. This is exactly what Google’s NotebookLM does. It’s (currently) free and it reads your Google Docs and does RAG on them. https://notebooklm.google/

The most amazing thing with notebooklm is that is can turn your docs into a very high quality podcast of two people discussing the content of your docs.

Juggling dog. It's not very good, but it's amazing that it's possible at all.

https://github.com/BenWheatley/Timeline-of-the-near-future

I've only used the "Deep Dive" generator a few times, and I'm already sensing the audio equivalent of "youtube face" in the style — not saying that's inherently bad, but this is definitely early days for this kind of tool, so consider Deep Dive as it is today to be a GPT-2 demo of things to come.

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