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Google won't be mandating a strict return-to-office plan

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Re: Google won't be mandating a strict return-to-office plan

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Hybrid is RTO. If I can’t live where I want to live and work from anywhere, it’s a non starter for me.

In my little neck of the woods - cloud consulting/professional services - Google is worse than Amazon where I just left last year.

AWS ProServe never had a RTO mandate and from former coworkers I’ve talked to, still doesn’t.

Google’s Cloud Consulting division does force a hybrid office schedule which is really dumb considering the work is both customer facing and requires a lot of travel

Re: Google won't be mandating a strict return-to-office plan

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I applaud Microsoft and Google for not going with a full RTO. But hybrid work still requires you to live near an office. True remote work enables an economy that is spread out, resilient, and lets people live the way they want. We have this capability so why not do it?

Re: Google won't be mandating a strict return-to-office plan

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for the moment. my guess is that in the next 12/18 month all of major tech & big corps will follow the amazon's way.

Maybe but I think this sort of exposed weak leadership at the top of Amazon (Andy Jassy) and/or their hidden goals of a silent layoff or protecting value of their real estates (at everyone else’s cost).

Re: Google won't be mandating a strict return-to-office plan

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I applaud Microsoft and Google for not going with a full RTO. But hybrid work still requires you to live near an office. True remote work enables an economy that is spread out, resilient, and lets people live the way they want. We have this capability so why not do it?

Because they don't simply want you to perform tasks. They want to assimilate your mind and make it fully committed to a corporate cult. They can best accomplish this by having you spending most of your wake time in their corp kingdom.

Re: Google won't be mandating a strict return-to-office plan

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post #3

for the moment. my guess is that in the next 12/18 month all of major tech & big corps will follow the amazon's way.

These folks literally just saw what Amazon did and did the opposite.

They just want Amazon talent. Then they'll turn up the heat.

Re: Google won't be mandating a strict return-to-office plan

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post #7

I applaud Microsoft and Google for not going with a full RTO. But hybrid work still requires you to live near an office. True remote work enables an economy that is spread out, resilient, and lets people live the way they want. We have this capability so why not do it?

Because they don't simply want you to perform tasks. They want to assimilate your mind and make it fully committed to a corporate cult. They can best accomplish this by having you spending most of your wake time in their corp kingdom.

Having been there: it's not that. It's that, unfortunately, they have enough hard numbers to know most people do their best work with a boss physically breathing down their neck.

I knew some folks at Google who worked 100% remote and only came into the office for critical meetings about once a month. They had proven they could operate that way with a more-or-less stellar track record.

Re: Google won't be mandating a strict return-to-office plan

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I applaud Microsoft and Google for not going with a full RTO. But hybrid work still requires you to live near an office. True remote work enables an economy that is spread out, resilient, and lets people live the way they want. We have this capability so why not do it?

IMO the downside of being that spread out is the infrastructure. Cities subsidize the suburban infrastructure because of the population density benefits. If everyone spreads out then infrastructure will suffer.
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