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The latter half of October, the maintainer goes offline

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Re: The latter half of October, the maintainer goes offline

#11

Not familiar with Kernel maintainers but do some never take full 2-week long holidays??

In the US, a decent company will give you three weeks total vacation. To get more than that can require decades of service (eg four weeks after 10 years with the company). To “squander” two thirds of the allotment in one go is rare.

Crazy how this is normal, in Germany you won't even find anybody to work for you if you offered less than 30 days of vacation

Re: The latter half of October, the maintainer goes offline

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US, a decent company will give you three weeks total vacation. To get more than that can require decades of service (eg four weeks after 10 years with the company). To “squander” two thirds of the allotment in one go is rare.

Crazy how this is normal, in Germany you won't even find anybody to work for you if you offered less than 30 days of vacation

Offer 300k Euros for 6 year experience and see if that still holds.

Re: The latter half of October, the maintainer goes offline

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US, a decent company will give you three weeks total vacation. To get more than that can require decades of service (eg four weeks after 10 years with the company). To “squander” two thirds of the allotment in one go is rare.

Crazy how this is normal, in Germany you won't even find anybody to work for you if you offered less than 30 days of vacation

How many holidays do you get in addition to that? Is that in any industry, such as fast food service or grocery store clerks, or just professional jobs, or only your own industry? I know time off isn't the best in the US, but a good comparison requires a bit more info.

Re: The latter half of October, the maintainer goes offline

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crazy how this is normal, in Germany you won't even find anybody to work for you if you offered less than 30 days of vacation

How many holidays do you get in addition to that? Is that in any industry, such as fast food service or grocery store clerks, or just professional jobs, or only your own industry? I know time off isn't the best in the US, but a good comparison requires a bit more info.

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[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_Germany

Re: The latter half of October, the maintainer goes offline

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crazy how this is normal, in Germany you won't even find anybody to work for you if you offered less than 30 days of vacation

How many holidays do you get in addition to that? Is that in any industry, such as fast food service or grocery store clerks, or just professional jobs, or only your own industry? I know time off isn't the best in the US, but a good comparison requires a bit more info.

Brazilian here. We get a minimum of 30 days/year by law, across every industry, plus a handful of holidays.

Re: The latter half of October, the maintainer goes offline

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crazy how this is normal, in Germany you won't even find anybody to work for you if you offered less than 30 days of vacation

How many holidays do you get in addition to that? Is that in any industry, such as fast food service or grocery store clerks, or just professional jobs, or only your own industry? I know time off isn't the best in the US, but a good comparison requires a bit more info.

When people generalize across Jobs they often really do mean All Jobs.

https://www.statista.com/chart/15005/statutory-minimum-paid-...

Generalizing a bit but there is less of a divide between “fast food service and grocery store clerks” and professionals in Western Europe compared to some other places. Workers are workers and they have certain rights as that.

Re: The latter half of October, the maintainer goes offline

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US, a decent company will give you three weeks total vacation. To get more than that can require decades of service (eg four weeks after 10 years with the company). To “squander” two thirds of the allotment in one go is rare.

Crazy how this is normal, in Germany you won't even find anybody to work for you if you offered less than 30 days of vacation

Better: in Germany you have the legal right to have a minimum of 24 days of vacation in the year (§3 Bundesurlaubsgesetz).

Re: The latter half of October, the maintainer goes offline

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Not familiar with Kernel maintainers but do some never take full 2-week long holidays??

In the US, a decent company will give you three weeks total vacation. To get more than that can require decades of service (eg four weeks after 10 years with the company). To “squander” two thirds of the allotment in one go is rare.

I tried to negotiate 4 weeks when I joined my current company, but the hiring process went dead. My inside contact told me that as far as he could tell, they simply did not have a mechanism to handle someone asking for more than 3 weeks.

Re: The latter half of October, the maintainer goes offline

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It's nice to see this happen, Being a good maintainer requires a particular mindset.

I do not have this mindset.

I am a maintainer.

I have been absent from one of my projects for 9 months. People actually use this thing. That eats me up inside. That anxiety is partially why it's difficult to start up again.

I am the kind of person who makes things, unfortunately when you make things you become the maintainer by default. It's not easy to hand over maintainership either though, you want to ensure the project is in good hands. One of my old projects has been absorbed into Linux Mint and that's quite gratifying to see that a project I made maybe a decade ago get a Catalan translation in just the last few months.

Re: The latter half of October, the maintainer goes offline

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crazy how this is normal, in Germany you won't even find anybody to work for you if you offered less than 30 days of vacation

How many holidays do you get in addition to that? Is that in any industry, such as fast food service or grocery store clerks, or just professional jobs, or only your own industry? I know time off isn't the best in the US, but a good comparison requires a bit more info.

I live in Sweden where we have minimum 25 paid vacation days (I have 28) and 9 paid holidays.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_b...

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