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Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by meowface »

danielovichdk wrote: post #38

No thank you. As with anything else that is helpful, there is a balancing act to be aware of. This is too much for my taste. Just like github copilot is too much. It's too dumb like this. But chatgpt is insanely helpful in a context where I really need to learn something I am deep diving into or where I need an extra layer of direction. I do not use the tool for coding up front. I use them for iterations on narrow su…

I think you should try to give tools like this another chance. If Andrej Karpathy can say AI-assisted programming is a productivity boost for him (https://x.com/karpathy/status/1827143768459637073), it can be a productivity boost for probably any programmer.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by acomjean »

atomic128 wrote: post #75
danielovichdk wrote: post #38

No thank you. As with anything else that is helpful, there is a balancing act to be aware of. This is too much for my taste. Just like github copilot is too much. It's too dumb like this. But chatgpt is insanely helpful in a context where I really need to learn something I am deep diving into or where I need an extra layer of direction. I do not use the tool for coding up front. I use them for iterations on narrow su…

Don't fight this. Try to profit from it. People love these tools and they will become utterly, utterly dependent. Using a spell-checker, I have gradually lost my ability to spell. Using these LLM tools, large parts of the population will lose the ability to think. Try to own them like farm animals. The large number of tokens being processed by iterative models requires enormous energy. Look at the power draw of a Hop…

Speaking of energy use. Microsoft is literally in talks to restart a nuclear plant where they will buy all the power[1]. It happens to be "Three Mile Island" plant [2]

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03162-2

https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/3...

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#93

Post by isignal »

cj wrote: post #4

This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…

Consumer side can allow you to run ads and get Google like revenue in the future.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#94

Post by arrobbiato »

Mixed feelings about this: clearly this is meant to match one of the killer features of Claude. I like using Claude, and I'm also a big supporter of Anthropic - not just because it's an underdog, but due to its responsible and ethical corporate governance model[1], which stands in stark contrast to OpenAI. It's worrying to see ChatGPT close one of the gaps between it and Claude.

[1] https://www.anthropic.com/news/the-long-term-benefit-trust

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#95

Post by petesergeant »

smy20011 wrote: post #66

A pretty good UX improvement for ChatGPT. I think they will fork VScode and make an AI editor later. Although It's confusing for me the OAI seems spend more time on end user product instead of working on AGI.

I really hope VS Code can make API changes such that nobody needs to be forking it for these projects. I tried using Cursor for a few hours but I don’t want a hacked-up VS Code, I just want VS Code.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#96

Post by atomic128 »

acomjean wrote: post #92
atomic128 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't fight this. Try to profit from it. People love these tools and they will become utterly, utterly dependent. Using a spell-checker, I have gradually lost my ability to spell. Using these LLM tools, large parts of the population will lose the ability to think. Try to own them like farm animals. The large number of tokens being processed by iterative models requires enormous energy. Look at the power draw of a Hop…

Speaking of energy use. Microsoft is literally in talks to restart a nuclear plant where they will buy all the power[1]. It happens to be "Three Mile Island" plant [2] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03162-2 https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/3...

Thank you. Discussed in detail and at length here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41692131

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#97

Post by meiraleal »

throwgfgfd25 wrote: post #27
yawnxyz wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This means you're a great writer — congrats! I'm a terrible writer, and this kind of crutch is really useful. Other people in our lab (from China, Korea, etc.) also find this kind of thing useful for working / communicating quickly

Well, I've just read back through some of your comments and I say that ain't so! Write honestly. Write the way you write. Use your own flow, make your own grammatical wobbles, whatever they are. Express yourself authentically. Don't let an AI do this to you.

  Person A: Me try make this code work but it always crash! maybe the server hate or i miss thing. any help?

  Person A with AI: I've been trying to get this code to work, but it keeps crashing. I'm not sure if I missed something or if there's an issue with the server. Any tips would be appreciated!
For a non-native English speaker, it's much better professionally to use AI before sending a message than to appear authentic (which you won't in another language that you aren't fluent so better to sound robotic than write like a 10 years old kid).

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by supafastcoder »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #83
wenc wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. This is exactly what Google’s NotebookLM does. It’s (currently) free and it reads your Google Docs and does RAG on them. https://notebooklm.google/

The most amazing thing with notebooklm is that is can turn your docs into a very high quality podcast of two people discussing the content of your docs.

It's fun the first time but it quickly gets boring.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by franze »

debbiedowner wrote: post #52
cj wrote: post #4

This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…

An LLM named Duet has been in Google docs for 17 months now! https://workspace.google.com/blog/product-announcements/duet... I've been using it for about a year.

never figured out on how to activate it in my workspace

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#100

Post by csomar »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #12
throwgfgfd25 wrote: post #7

Do they not understand that the example text they are using in the first image is so laughably banal that it makes an entire segment of its potential audience not want to engage at all? Shoot me in the face if my own writing is ever that bad. ETA: just to be clear... I am not a great writer. Or a bad one. But this is a particular kind of bad . The kind we should all try to avoid.

> Do they not understand They don't care. Their goal is to accelerate the production of garbage.

I am trying to convince myself that I am not insane and everyone else is. The platform was literally down for me for a good 12 hours or so because they had an auth problem or bug. Their interface is subpar yet they are trying to convince people that this is replacing knowledge worker any minute now. I recommended to a friend that he uses chatGPT to write some English content and it did a bad job. I checked bolt yesterday and the code it produced for a very simple app was complete garbage hallucination.

I really like copilot/ai when the focus was about hyper-auto-complete. I wish the integration was LSP+autocomplete+compilation check+docs correlation. That will boost my productivity x10 times and save me some brain cycles. Instead we are getting garbage UX/Backends that are trying to fully replace devs. Give me a break.

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