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Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#71

A pretty good UX improvement for ChatGPT. I think they will fork VScode and make an AI editor later. Although It's confusing for me the OAI seems spend more time on end user product instead of working on AGI.

AGI is a research project.

These are revenue generators.

Both have a place.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#72
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe you are attacking a strawman here.

I believe it's not solving a real problem. I believe that the human skills of reasoning, logical thinking, etc. make it possible for any able minded human to do the things I just mentioned, given time and money is provided. AI can't do that. Let's call that process "programming". It cant do programming. It pretends to program.

Why must LLMs or “AI” beat or match the smartest and most capable humans to be considered to solve a real problem? There’s been a lot of technology invented and in widespread use that solves real problems without having human-like intelligence.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#73

I'm playing around with this right now and it's pretty sweet. It real-time shows which lines it's "thinking" about working and feels very dynamic, like I'm working with a machine in real-time. It can't display markdown and formatted code side-by-side which is kind of a surprise. I haven't tried doing anything super complex with it yet. Just having it generate some poems, but it's smart enough to be able to use natura…

How do I get access to this feature? I cannot find it in the normal chatgpt interface.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#75

No thank you. As with anything else that is helpful, there is a balancing act to be aware of. This is too much for my taste. Just like github copilot is too much. It's too dumb like this. But chatgpt is insanely helpful in a context where I really need to learn something I am deep diving into or where I need an extra layer of direction. I do not use the tool for coding up front. I use them for iterations on narrow su…

Don't fight this. Try to profit from it. People love these tools and they will become utterly, utterly dependent.

Using a spell-checker, I have gradually lost my ability to spell. Using these LLM tools, large parts of the population will lose the ability to think. Try to own them like farm animals.

The large number of tokens being processed by iterative models requires enormous energy. Look at the power draw of a Hopper or Blackwell GPU. The Cerebras wafer burns 23 KW.

One avenue to profit is to invest in nuclear power by owning uranium. This is risky and I do not recommend it to others. See discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41661768

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#76
post #71

A pretty good UX improvement for ChatGPT. I think they will fork VScode and make an AI editor later. Although It's confusing for me the OAI seems spend more time on end user product instead of working on AGI.

AGI is a research project. These are revenue generators. Both have a place.

If I genuinely thought I was close to AGI, I’d focus all my efforts on that, then ask it to build my revenue generators.

That’s probably what Ilya is doing.

(FWIW I don’t think we’re close to AGI).

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#77

A pretty good UX improvement for ChatGPT. I think they will fork VScode and make an AI editor later. Although It's confusing for me the OAI seems spend more time on end user product instead of working on AGI.

Great end user experience is a huge differentiator in my opinion… it’s why I use OpenAI over other products in the market. It’s actually a joy to use.

(The responses are generally far better than other products.)

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#78

Funny timing. StackBlitz announced Bolt.new ( https://bolt.new/ ) today with multi-file edit, emulated filesystem, arbitrary npm installs, and is open source. I feel ChatGPT is still chasing after Claude 3.5 artifact.

The symbol and Blitz kind of give Nazi vibes. Did they think the naming through?

"Blitz" literally just means "lightning"

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

#80

Slick interface but the example they gave is depressing. We taught the model to open a canvas for prompts like “Write a blog post about the history of coffee beans”. If you're not heavily editing this post to say something genuinely new, then congratulations you've added even more drivel to the Great Pacific Garbage Patch of the internet.

Some people really think that they are now "content writers" with ChatGPT, just as those spitting out sort-of-working scripts think they are "software engineers".

I am sorry, dears, but this is not how it works. To be good at any of this, you should be able to do it yourself without any "prompt engineering", and the only path is through work, time, trial/error, and tons of frustration.

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