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What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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I read but every night for 1-2hours? No way.

There's also chores, talking with people, board games, going for a walk, a bath, sex, exercise, just doing nothing in particular for a bit, etc. The choice isnt only screens or books.

Doing the dishes is a nice balance of meditative, boring, and feeling accomplished. A good nightly chore.

Exercise can backfire in terms of sleep. A bit earlier in the day and it's great. But not right before bed, at least not in my experience.

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Jesus, isn't it at least a bit obvious? OK so let's call it 'interactive screen time'. No, reading ebook doesn't count, as long as you don't keep switching to something else frequently. It will mess up your eyes worse than physical book, but that's about it. I can see the proper cancer that screens cause to small children development. Heck, some parents are proud how 'digital' their kids are, like scrolling through s…

A bit tangential but how does a digital book mess up your eyes? Or a physical one. I don’t think reading has any effect on your eyesight. People are quick nowadays (or always have been) to bring out the good old „todays kids are rotten to the core“ trope - just because it’s now you who is old and doesn’t get how the world moved on, doesn’t mean it’s any different to the centuries of complaining about the youth before…

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9139974/

Reading can absolutely have an impact on the eyes. Close distance reading as well as lack of natural light seem to be conditions that can favor e.g. myopia.

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Adult here that NEVER used any kind of mobile phone/tablet- never even had a flip/dumb phone. I do programming amongst other creative computer based things- the thing I've noticed between me and the normal phone/tablet human- is the ability to focus. I can focus for hours, weeks, months, years on tasks etc. Everyone around me feels like focus wimps- they focus for 15 minutes or an hour and are proud of themselves and…

>Also using phones has always seemed nerdy/dorky-

Nothing nerdy about sitting behind a terminal emulator...

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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I've seen this advise from other sources as well: "Spend time outside and get morning light" (In the first hour of getting up). That is a really stupid advise, it only for a few months a year. The rest of the time it's dark when I get up and will remain dark for more than an hour.

Your perceived inability to follow the advice because you live too close to the poles does not mean the advice itself is wrong, and definitely doesn't mean it's stupid. Many people in similar climates to you use sun lamps during winter, for example.

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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What about a nice book?

I read but every night for 1-2hours? No way.

Not sure if you are being facetious. I'll put my hand up as someone who reads at least an hour at night before going to sleep. Like anything it becomes normal eventually.

As a matter of fact I'll put my phone away and get my book out.

Good night! :)

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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> The negative effects of screen time are insidious because you can’t see what’s happening in your brain as you’re staring at the screen

Well, I can feel it. It's subtle but especially in comparison to screen-less activities I can _feel_ that I am doing something that impairs my mental health. (Doom) scrolling, binging on youtube etc.

> Rather than looking at our phones upon waking, Loeffler recommends starting each morning looking at the horizon or an object outside and far away.

Looking at the sky - okay. But looking at the horizon? That's a bit unrealistic. I'd argue that you could also have a plant. And the first thing you do after waking up is watering it and checking its health. Just as an idea for folks like me who can't see the horizon from their apartment.

> Since the eyes are directly connected to the brain

The eyes are actually a part of the brain.

> This rule suggests that individuals look at something 20 feet away for 20 seconds every 20 minutes of the day.

This is one of those totally ridiculous health rules. Not even worth talking about it. My suggestion would be to embrace a more dynamic work style. I'm working in front of a computer - technically for 8 hours a day. But I'm walking around _all_ _the_ _time_. Not because I think I should - but because it just feels right.

> This study found that excessive screen time can hinder sleep, especially when looking at screens late at night.

This I can confirm 100%. I don't even think that the screen's light is the biggest issue. For me it's more the content I tend to read and consume lying in bed, half-tired.

> One of the biggest issues with picking up the phone right away in the morning is that when you have an object close to your face, it’s registered as a threat,” says Loeffler. “You wouldn’t want to wake up and look a bear in the face every morning. On a physiological level, it’s the same thing.

I call BS on that. There are many reasons why not to take up the phone first thing in the morning. In fact that is why I use a separate alarm-clock (no need to handle my phone right before bed time and no need to take it up right after waking up) and I put my phone into flight-mode. So, there won't even be any notifications irking me. But this theory feels like what "scientists" come up with just to come up with something.

Very shallow article but good reminder to again put a little attention to discipline around phone usage.

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Lost me in the second paragraph:

> excessive screen time, defined as more than two hours a day outside of work hours

Oh, is that how we define it?

What are work hours, how do my eyes and brain know then they've ended, and why does the author default to assuming that employers should have first rights on this apparently finite resource?

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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“One of the biggest issues with picking up the phone right away in the morning is that when you have an object close to your face, it’s registered as a threat,” says Loeffler. “You wouldn’t want to wake up and look a bear in the face every morning. On a physiological level, it’s the same thing.” This is interesting to me. It does make some evolutionary sense but at the same time, i wake up every morning and look at m…

Other than sounding "bad for you" for some reason to some people, what's wrong with waking up with a threat? Like why would that inherently be bad for you? Nobody explained that in the article and it's taken at face value.

What's wrong with "activating your fight or flight"? I could easily see some pop-sci book being written about how activating your fight or flight boosts testosterone or makes you more aware during your next tasks or whatever. Stress that makes you anxious is correlated with some diseases, but stress that you can deal with can many times be beneficial.

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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On my family's iPhones, we have a Shortcut (automation) that kicks in every evening at 9 pm: 1. Turn Mobile Data Off 2. Turn Bluetooth Off 3. Turn WiFi Off 4. Turn AppleTV off (this one is fun because it can cut off a show mid-sentence) 5. Set brightness to 10%. Then, a reverse of the above at 6am the following day. Normal phone signal is still enabled for any emergency calls, but most apps become useless without the…

Sounds about right. Curious question, up until age 18 did you have a similar upbringing?

That's kinda hard to answer without dating yourself, which the OP might not want to do.

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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“One of the biggest issues with picking up the phone right away in the morning is that when you have an object close to your face, it’s registered as a threat,” says Loeffler. “You wouldn’t want to wake up and look a bear in the face every morning. On a physiological level, it’s the same thing.” This is interesting to me. It does make some evolutionary sense but at the same time, i wake up every morning and look at m…

What if it's a nice bear
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