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What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Post by defyonce »

frereubu wrote: post #21
MrJagil wrote: post #11

“One of the biggest issues with picking up the phone right away in the morning is that when you have an object close to your face, it’s registered as a threat,” says Loeffler. “You wouldn’t want to wake up and look a bear in the face every morning. On a physiological level, it’s the same thing.” This is interesting to me. It does make some evolutionary sense but at the same time, i wake up every morning and look at m…

This sounds like hocus pocus to me, along the lines of the claim that phone alert tones activate the "love centre" of the brain. Just so happens that the "love centre" is also the "vomiting centre" along with a load of other stuff. I'd treat this hand-wavy claim with the same kind of skepticism - your counter-example is an excellent one. I agree that looking at a phone first thing in the morning is a bad idea, but fo…

There is only one reason why my phone alerts: something gone wrong, and they need my attention.

I hate phone alerts with all my soul. I wish they never existed as a concept.

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Post by spoonfeeder006 »

"when you have an object close to your face, it’s registered as a threat"

Ok I wonder to what extent the flight / fight response can be unconscious and not noticed

And I get that FoF can be triggered. But from seeing the phone it can't be nearly as much as with seeing a bear coming at you can it?

I'm also curious what kinds of objects do that, and why does the phone do it and not something else?

Like would reading the news trigger that? Playing a game of chess?

I think I will ask Perplexity AI on those later

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Post by hypfer »

ulrikrasmussen wrote: post #98
MrJagil wrote: post #11

“One of the biggest issues with picking up the phone right away in the morning is that when you have an object close to your face, it’s registered as a threat,” says Loeffler. “You wouldn’t want to wake up and look a bear in the face every morning. On a physiological level, it’s the same thing.” This is interesting to me. It does make some evolutionary sense but at the same time, i wake up every morning and look at m…

That quote made me lose interest in anything that article had to say. It's such a ridiculous claim to say that everything that is close to my face is automatically registered as a threat, and I bet that 99.99% of things that regularly gets close to peoples faces (even disregarding smartphones from that statistic) are actually not threats at all. I don't think it makes evolutionary sense at all since it would cause us…

I'm surprised you made it that far before filing it as the BS it is, given that "Screens" in general have been the enemy in that article.

Not what they display, how they operate or any other detail. No. Screens. A thing that displays information.

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Post by bdjsiqoocwk »

devjab wrote: post #55
bdjsiqoocwk wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I use my phone on a morning for Duolingo Duolingo is extremely passive. you're not learning a language, you're learning how to answer correctly on an app. It's a lot more time efficient to do exercises from a grammar. But... It doesn't feel as good. Which is exactly the point.

I think that there are a lot of issues with the way Duolingo motives people through unhealthy incentives, but research does show that it works. Though it will need to be used in conjunction with other methods of learning to be truly helpful. But then, why would you learn a language if you’re not going to actively use it? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/379288394_The_Effec...

> Though it will need to be used in conjunction with other methods of learning to be truly helpful.

This reminded me of that story by Feynman where he meets a painter that claims we can make orange paint with just red and white.

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Post by latexr »

komali2 wrote: post #41

This may be because I no longer live an isolated American lifestyle, but my impression in Taiwan is that adults are hopelessly addicted to their phones. This is gonna come off as obnoxious but I can't help it, whenever my partner and I go out for a nice dinner we're unable to comprehend how literally every other couple spends basically the entire meal on their phones. Sometimes one of them even has a little phone hol…

> whenever my partner and I go out for a nice dinner we're unable to comprehend how literally every other couple spends basically the entire meal on their phones.

I used to play a game when out to dinner: If there’s another table with two people and you notice one of them getting up (likely to go to the bathroom), see how long it takes the other person to take out their phone. It stopped being fun pretty fast because everyone did it instantly.

> Or am I just more aware of the harm it causes me?

It’s that one.

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Post by portaouflop »

ywvcbk wrote: post #70
kmarc wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about yellow(ish) backlight? I switched to Kobo bc of that

No, only actually candlelight is fine. Ideally an open fire. However reading itself is unnatural so it can only lead to negative outcomes..

I take it you you’re sarcastic but natural is dying at age twenty from a broken leg, miss me with natural living

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Post by aucisson_masque »

This seems like bullshit to me, I am fully for reducing time spent on screen but the arguments given are not serious.

For instance:

> Another study found that adults who watched television for five hours or more per day had an increased risk of developing brain-related disease like dementia, stroke, or Parkinson’s

So what? It doesn't mean tv is going to make you have dementia, stroke or parkinson. This prove nothing, it could be causality but also correlation.

Aka, you have issue so you watch tv instead of going out.

The whole article reads like pseudo-science.

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Post by portaouflop »

spoonfeeder006 wrote: post #102

"when you have an object close to your face, it’s registered as a threat" Ok I wonder to what extent the flight / fight response can be unconscious and not noticed And I get that FoF can be triggered. But from seeing the phone it can't be nearly as much as with seeing a bear coming at you can it? I'm also curious what kinds of objects do that, and why does the phone do it and not something else? Like would reading th…

Seeing a phone triggers exactly the same response as when you see a 300kg bear charging at you.

Re: What excessive screen time does to the adult brain

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Post by [deleted] »

portaouflop wrote: post #108
spoonfeeder006 wrote: post #102

"when you have an object close to your face, it’s registered as a threat" Ok I wonder to what extent the flight / fight response can be unconscious and not noticed And I get that FoF can be triggered. But from seeing the phone it can't be nearly as much as with seeing a bear coming at you can it? I'm also curious what kinds of objects do that, and why does the phone do it and not something else? Like would reading th…

Seeing a phone triggers exactly the same response as when you see a 300kg bear charging at you.

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